Throw a pretty big party too, think Gatsby with confederate flags.

I just looked up War of Northern Aggression. Apparently that's something recent too. I always assumed that was what the South called the Civil War. Apparently not.

https://deadconfederates.com/2011/06...t-revisionism/

Apart from the 1862 example mentioned earlier, the term “War of Northern Aggression” didn’t appear in the New York Times again until 1972.

That's pretty crazy when you think about it. I live in Florida. People call it the War of Northern Aggression all the time around here.

EDIT: As always is the case, the comments are gold.

At the risk of not being taken seriously, which is always a choice, I’ve particularly appreciated the phrase simply because it is the best, most accurate, and shortest in which to address the ‘late unpleasantness.’
Please keep in mind that it was invading Northern armies that so offended the gentle dispositions of our Southern neighbors. Had Pres. Lincoln not ordered the invasion of the legally seceding states there would not have been the slaughter of 600,000, the murder, rape, and pillage of civilians by Yankee bummers and so forth.
There’s no way around it, “The War of Northern Aggression” works rather well, don’t you think?

Yeah. We have preserved Nazi memorabilia, but it is inside museums surrounded by context of shame and that these ****ers were evil. It is not outside standing in glory.

Take that **** down and put up a Civil Rights museum with monuments to Harriet Tubman, Rosa Parks, MLK, or other civil rights figures from the specific local area. Actually teach people about The Lost Cause and The Compromise of 1877. These monuments as they currently exist do none of those things.

Preserving history helps with not having to repeat it. At least if you learn from it.But yeah, put it in a museum.

Well, then there is a Civil War battlefield 10 minutes outside of the city as well as the Confederate Memorial Hall Museum two blocks from the Lee statue that doesn't appear to be overtly Lost Cause-ish but probably is somewhat. Either one make way more sense.

Preserving the racist history of America is critical. We don't want these torn down. They need context.

Germany has their Stolperstein. America needs their own.

Is that some kind of sausage?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aol...ngs-than-9-11/

Really?

The sad thing, just like the Trump tweets and fake tweets, is that it is plausible "enough."

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Hmm, never noticed this. Very good point.

Yeah and it turns out that inscription actually is/was real.

The Senate Intel Committee hearings on Russia are not going as well as we had hoped. Looks like they are going the way of the House:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-ru...130323166.html

Actual Nazi/Confederate memorabilia has legitimate historical value. That's why the Daughters of the Confederacy have been so successful in retconning the past; they take advantage of this sentiment.

What if, in 2017, I erect a Nazi memorial that completely distorts the historical record? Man, put that in a roadside museum of historical bull**** next to some fake Rembrandt paintings. It's not a legit part of WWII history.

Einbert, obstruction and active cover-up of Russia both seem fairly obvious at this point. Here's a good indicator:



I really hope the Senate committee doesn't blow up too, if it hasn't already. Both committees seem like they are on the verge of discovering something really damning. The WH and some Rs have been fighting like hell to stunt progress.

Yeah the thing is even if say, public pressure mounts and Burr ends up recusing himself, they just replace him with another Trump loyalist Republican. The Republicans control these committees and there's basically no way to force them to take this seriously.

The only part of this that surprises me is your statement that you hear the term War of Northern Aggression all the time. I grew up in Alabama in the 1970s and 1980s. I never heard the term used even once.

Confederate flags were a different story. I saw those all the time. In my experience, the average white person during that time who had a silk screen of the Confederate flag on the back of their pickup, or a flag in their yard, knew very little about the Confederacy or the Civil War. They certainly hadn't gone to the trouble of becoming fluent in some sort of Lost Cause mythology.

It was more a signal that you took pride in being country as ****, that is, pride in being what people referred to back then as a redneck. Racism of course was a part of that image, but the connection to the Civil War or the Confederacy was indirect. In other words, if you had asked people in this group who Jefferson Davis High School was named after, a surprising number wouldn't have been able to tell you anything more specific than, "some dead guy I guess."

The "War of Northern Aggression" thing is whatever. I grew up in NC/VA and many people feel that states' rights was the real reason for the Civil War, not slavery. I was taught this in school. In the late 90s/early 00s. That's the real travesty that has to be corrected here.

Trump interview on 9/11: "[My building] was the 2nd-tallest in Manhattan... And now it’s the tallest."

I could believe that. I guess my point is that a lot of white Southerners when I was a kid knew very little about the Confederacy or the Civil War. And I don't mean that they were ignorant in the sense that they had a lot false history at their fingertips. I mean that they were ignorant in the sense that they couldn't tell you things like: (i) exactly which states seceded; (ii) when the war occurred; (iii) the political leaders of the Confederacy; (iv) the events that led to the Civil War; (v) where most of the fighting occurred; and (vi) whether any of their relatives were Confederate soldiers.

He won't have to. They'll be gone before they finish building it.

So will a good chunk of Americans.

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I bet their parents knew though.

The ignorance is intentional. When people don't know the real facts they are more susceptible to stuff like "it was about states' rights" or even "the Holocaust is a myth."

Wouldn't be surprised if a significant portion want the holiday solely because it's a day off from work regardless of what it was celebrating.

In case this comment was on "Stolperstein":
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolperstein