The slightly flawed methodology you describe is the one they used. In the poll, 11% of respondents claim to have voted someone other than Trump/Clinton, when only about 6.5% of voters did so in November.

But generally speaking, a small rate of regret is to be expected. Look who they voted for. It's not like anything so far can really be described as a disappointing surprise. The idea that he would "drain the swamp" for example was always understood by his voters to mean "of liberal eggheads."

No, it wouldn't be that high, but was that the point he was making? I didn't get that.

The fact that terrorism is the top issue supposedly shows how dumb people are. It's a big macro issue but on a micro level how likely are you to be injured/killed hell meet? a non white "terrorist" wherever you are in America...

Immigration was notoriously shelved/ignored by Republicans for a long time before Trump got there so yeah he had a huge effect on his supporters making it a priority.

Yes you did.

Weed

Younger trump supporters still think it's completely safe because trump once said he supported legalization. Lol.

Dispensaries get messed with all the time - even under Obama. I don't think people have completely internalized that weed should be legal yet. Plus the weed-head subset of young people probably has a very small overlap with the subset young people who actually vote.

Mess with their social media though...

It was one of trump's top three planks by a mile and literally the only thing he campaigned on he has been able to do anything about since in office.

Just so you know if you did not vote at all or voted third party you are as bad or worse then trump voters in causing this mess. So when you say you didn't vote for trump it's not the bullet proof armor you think it is. It actually makes you much worse.

No it doesn't.

The Indiana factory workers whose jobs Trump didn't save

Posting mostly because of this mind-blowing snippet, about how they still support Trump even after losing their jobs:

"I am very upset with the wealthy capitalists who fired me. Vote GOP!"

The comparison of speeding and illegal immigration was stupid and I shouldn't have entertained it.

No, I didn't. I would have if I lived in a contested state, admittedly, but I don't and I didn't.

No, it speaks directly to your "screw what's right, it's the law" argument. Just like BJs being illegal. Cops used discretion and didn't enforce it much - but it was still the law.

Just like even the Trump admin knows that deporting 11 million people is untenable - which is why they said they were going to only go after the "bad hombres". A pledge which took all of a week for them to break. Now they're apparently just going after the easy targets in a haphazard manner. Any negative press is all the better as fap material for the base.

Look at what happens when you do your little thought experiment about DREAM-ers (unburdened from knowing the actual law or policy). You come to the conclusion that someone who was brought here at a very young age, who has done everything right and shows all signs of being a productive citizen - should be allowed to stay somehow.

We point out to you, which you keep ignoring, that this is exactly what Obama tried to do, what past bi-partisan groups in Congress tried to do, and what Trump explicitly campaigned against and is not doing.

So you google and find a thing about cancellation, wash your hands and call it a day. Must be nice to live in your own reality and choose which tidbits you let stick and which just slide right on by like **** through a goose.

I understand that you and most of the people in this thread believe that any vote other than a vote for Hillary is a terrible thing. But, thankfully, I live in America and I got to cast the vote how I wanted to. I'm not looking for an armor from you or the other weenies in this thread. I think most of you are annoying, wrong and rude. You, Markksman, are not the final arbiter of good and evil or right and wrong. I disagree with you on many, many fundamental things. I'm ok with that.

How am I washing my hands, I admitted that I was wrong about the requirements for cancellation? I think all people choose which tidbits they let stick and which to ignore. It is part of the human condition, in my experience. You don't think that is overwhelmingly evident in this thread?

Edit: and in regards to my thought experiment, it is just that. Yes, in a perfect world (for me) there would be some method towards citizenship in special circumstances BUT that is a single issue and certainly not one of my top concerns when I decided who to vote for.

Oh, and I'm sorry that you don't understand that some laws are more serious than others. That is why we have felonies, misdemeanors, etc.

You are washing your hands because you want to avoid culpability for the easily predictable results of the candidate you supported coming to pass when he wins using a feeble (and perhaps dubious) claim that those obvious consequences weren't important to you. Like, if a candidate runs explicitly on a platform of tax cuts and nuking North Korea, you don't just get to say that you just wanted a tax cut when the mushroom cloud spouts.

It's a package deal. You were willing to accept the deportations in exchange for everything else.

I'm so sick of trumpkins pretending they don't have responsibility for thier nazi daddy. You will wear your badge of shame for life and we will never forget.

That is obviously understood. You are rude for suggesting I'm disingenuous about my claim that immigration isn't a key issue for me and that I supported Trump, but otherwise I get your point and don't disagree. In regards to culpability, I don't really understand what you are saying. I didn't vote for Trump, but I would certainly do so tomorrow if the choice were Hillary or Trump. Does that make me culpable for everything that happens under Trump's presidency? I would say that claim is dubious.

And to Clovis: what I'm sick of is internet clowns throwing around the term "Nazi" without any regard for what that word means. Sickening.

I am well aware of what it means. It defines a racist, nationalist, anti-Semetic and facist political movement. There is literally no more apt word to describe Trump.

And yes you are culpable for everything he does when supporting him, especially if you are not denouncing him, which of course NOT A SINGLE ****ING Trumpkin is doing. You deplorable people are still sticking by him which means only one thing, you support his incompetence, racism, classism, anti-science, and anti-democratic platform.

You have no perspective. Typing things doesn't make them true. Good luck.

What of the Trump presidency have you been out protesting? What issues have you called your congresscritters about imploring them to block Trump?

Here is some perspective. You have made your nation the laughing stock of the world.

Easy...

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The most worrisome thing about this presidency is how long impeachment can take. I mean, NOW isn't soon enough. It's going to take forever to undo the damage by the time these morons finish.

I swear I read this article after that last post:

Senate Trump-Russia Probe Has No Full-Time Staff, No Key Witnesses

Sheesh. I thought the Senate investigation was the "good" one. C'mon FBI.