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04-18-2017 , 08:59 PM

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ligastar,

Education is tricky. In the context aoFrantic was talking about, quality of life for the general population, I think you should look at things other than the top universities.

yeah, when talking about quality of life we generally don't look at "if you pay ~20k a year for a private school for your young kid then 50k a year for their college they'll be ok."
You look more at the US not being top 25 in reading/science/math.

It's ok though, DeVos will fix it.

04-18-2017 , 08:59 PM

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American's have to be the undisputed BMI champions though.

04-18-2017 , 08:59 PM

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Based on my real life experience and I think perhaps generally in California that's doesn't seem like a surprise at all. The Bernie events here were definitely majority non-white. I think Bernie's problem wasn't being disapproved of by African Americans and Hispanics, just being not very well known.

edit: That poll includes Republicans, so that would drag down the white score.

ya basically this. stupid stat/metric given that way more minorities are Dem any dem will rate much higher with AA and Latinos

04-18-2017 , 09:01 PM

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aoFrantic,

Dunno, but I assumed he was talking about top universities.

04-18-2017 , 09:02 PM

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aoFrantic,

Dunno, but I assumed he was talking about top universities.

Sure, but how many people can afford to attend them? Are qualified to do so? Aren't burdened by the debt of doing so? Let's not pretend these institutions are doing amazing things for everybody who attends them.

04-18-2017 , 09:04 PM

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American's have to be the undisputed BMI champions though.

Mexicans tho.

04-18-2017 , 09:05 PM

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Trumpkins out stealing Ossoff signs

04-18-2017 , 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by microbet

aoFrantic,

Dunno, but I assumed he was talking about top universities.

pretty much. when the world flocks to your higher institutions of education then the word mediocre doesn't apply imo.

04-18-2017 , 09:11 PM

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Sure, but vaccines weren't discovered because the USA wanted to flex it's muscles internationally. That was the crux of the original discussion, with America being the "world leader."

Lol....

04-18-2017 , 09:12 PM

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There are problems for sure. You're getting me a bit on the defense though, so I'll say there are very good public universities and I graduated with like $2500 in debt. And my daughter is just going to private college next year and tuition plus the dorms is like $50k, but a lot of schools are pretty generous and I think her/our cost is going to be like $11-$15k.

04-18-2017 , 09:12 PM

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Judging a country by how well it educates the smartest and wealthiest adults seems a bit dubious.

04-18-2017 , 09:13 PM

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just learned that donald trump is a traitor to the republic. not good!

04-18-2017 , 09:13 PM

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So, you're not top 30 in the world in science/math, but you have the Ivy Leagues where people can throw away mid six figures on a degree so call it even? Ok I guess?

04-18-2017 , 09:15 PM

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So, you're not top 30 in the world in science/math, but you have the Ivy Leagues where people can throw away mid six figures on a degree so call it even? Ok I guess?

yeah. yeah. that's it. you got it man.

ain't gonna matter when the robots take over anyway. degree ain't gonna mean ****.

04-18-2017 , 09:17 PM

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So, you're not top 30 in the world in science/math, but you have the Ivy Leagues where people can throw away mid six figures on a degree so call it even? Ok I guess?

The US is better at science and math than the rest of the world combined

04-18-2017 , 09:18 PM

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The US is better at science and math than the rest of the world combined

Now, whoever had this dude saying the dumbest thing in this thread today over BS and our usual suspects collect your bets

04-18-2017 , 09:19 PM

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Judging a country by how well it educates the smartest and wealthiest adults seems a bit dubious.

Yeah and I think aoFrantic was correct in what he pretty obviously meant.

04-18-2017 , 09:24 PM

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Now, whoever had this dude saying the dumbest thing in this thread today over BS and our usual suspects collect your bets

It's arguable if you're exactly the right amount of elitist.

04-18-2017 , 09:25 PM

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04-18-2017 , 09:27 PM

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Judging a country by how well it educates the smartest and wealthiest adults seems a bit dubious.

Judging universities by how they improve the worlds knowledge (ie alot of their mission statements) doesnt

04-18-2017 , 09:27 PM

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Trump thinks the same person has led NK since the 90s. There is no dumber person to have ever held public office in any place on earth throughout history.

04-18-2017 , 09:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aoFrantic

So, you're not top 30 in the world in science/math, but you have the Ivy Leagues where people can throw away mid six figures on a degree so call it even? Ok I guess?

generally a fan of your posting but are you feeling ok today? US is farrrr and above #1 in science and math ainec. like wtf? just about all the best programs for all science math and engineeeing are at US univerisities. not sure wtf ur talking about with not cracking top 30.

04-18-2017 , 09:37 PM

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Trump thinks the same person has led NK since the 90s. There is no dumber person to have ever held public office in any place on earth throughout history.

Steve King (IA)?

04-18-2017 , 09:38 PM

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He's saying American Joe Sixpack knows less about science and math than Joe Sixpack of England, Germany, Japan, etc.

04-18-2017 , 09:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ligastar

pretty much. when the world flocks to your higher institutions of education then the word mediocre doesn't apply imo.

When attendance at those higher institutions is just straight up not attainable for tens of millions of your citizens, the fact that foreigners leave their own countries to attend them doesn't mean a whole lot in this context.

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The fact that we have those programs and yet still lag behind so many other countries when it comes to education generally should tell you something.

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