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04-18-2017 , 05:32 PM

#26676

champstark

aka starkwired

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 14,838

Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

First protected DREAMer is deported under Trump

Ignored orders or Trump lying again?

Obama pledged he would speak out against this ****. Nothing.

04-18-2017 , 05:37 PM

#26677

ASAP17

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,882

Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Obama pledged he would speak out against this ****. Nothing.

People make it so easy to say a former president not even 100 days from leaving office should PUBLICLY comment on the current president & his policies... Say what you want about W, but did he comment on Obama at all?

04-18-2017 , 05:44 PM

#26678

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

Isn't there an unspoken rule that you don't **** talk your successors?

My suspicion is that after you're done being POTUS the last thing you want to do is get involved in politics again.

04-18-2017 , 05:45 PM

#26679

champstark

aka starkwired

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 14,838

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASAP17

He made a huge point about saying he would get involved if DREAMers were deported. If he hadn't said that, I wouldn't give a ****. But he took that responsibility on.

04-18-2017 , 05:53 PM

#26680

wheatrich

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Trump badly wants obama to say and do things in the political realm again. Claiming O is a threat is part of his authoritarian strategy.

Figure GA6 is gonna send enough people away at the polls to force a runoff where ossoff loses. Really though, I'm not a fan of the elite democrats and ossoff is on that platform. I want a candidate who isn't a socialist who wants the $ out of politics, why is that so ****ing hard.

04-18-2017 , 05:56 PM

#26681

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Isn't there an unspoken rule that you don't **** talk your successors?

Yes, but I feel like now isn't a great spot to stick to prescedent just for the sake of decorum. Barry Bamz should be out there doing everything he can to stop Trump's agenda and get Dem voters to turn out.

04-18-2017 , 05:57 PM

#26682

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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Definitely true that Obama getting involved in politics again would energize the Trump base and probably consolidate Republicans who may have been wishy-washy wrt Trump behind him.

Probably best for BO to stick to giving speeches and writing books for the rest of his life.

04-18-2017 , 05:58 PM

#26683

stinkubus

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,422

Because your choices on the Dem side right now are the elites or the socialists, ldo. I suppose in some of the hillybilly states you get the blue dog (republicans in disguise) dems.

04-18-2017 , 06:01 PM

#26684

2OutsNoProb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ASAP17

Bit different.

GWB left on a sour note; he was falling, very quickly, and had an approval rating in the 30's, compared to his successor who entered office with one roughly 40pts higher.

Not the case with Obama, who left very popular and was considered pretty successful, whereas the guy replacing him is as hated as any incoming President ever.

04-18-2017 , 06:01 PM

#26685

Louis Cyphre

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Also, Trump has decided that the rules don't apply to him.

04-18-2017 , 06:03 PM

#26686

2OutsNoProb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stinkubus

Because your choices on the Dem side right now are the elites or the socialists, ldo. I suppose in some of the hillybilly states you get the blue dog (republicans in disguise) dems.

Kirsten Gillibrand is neither a socialist or an elite, and while not being a Republican in disguise nor from a hillbilly state, has plenty of crossover appeal and a very clean background. She'd be a perfect candidate IMO

04-18-2017 , 06:03 PM

#26687

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Obama crushed it twice and left with strong approval ratings. I don't see how it hurts to have him getting involved.

04-18-2017 , 06:05 PM

#26688

ASAP17

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,882

Some of you guys don't understand politics, Trump's base while still solid is starting to slowly fracture as they continue to get very little done other than EOs. Obama commenting after saying nothing would be the top story for a few days on cable news given you know Trump and others in government would comment in response. That's a great idea for getting your agenda accomplished when your party isn't even in power at most levels...

04-18-2017 , 06:07 PM

#26689

Our House

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CNN sources just confirming now that the FBI used the Trump dossier to get the wiretap on Carter Page. Pretty sure we all suspected as much already. They're saying members of Congress just got the info straight from Comey (today?).

04-18-2017 , 06:09 PM

#26690

ASAP17

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Meanwhile the Dems are already virtually united on almost everything... Do I need to go on?

04-18-2017 , 06:17 PM

#26691

vaya

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

So contrary to all of the handwringing by centrist Dems, the "Deep State" (ie, ordinary FBI agents) aren't undermining Trump at all. They've known for a long time that he's been working with Russia and they've done absolutely nothing about it.

04-18-2017 , 06:23 PM

#26692

einbert

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Yeah James Comey is not gonna save the Republic. It's time to hit the protest marches and Town Halls.

04-18-2017 , 06:24 PM

#26693

markksman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

I can't see oldster BillO creating his own indie media platform the way Beck did. Some AM radio channel will pick up O'Reilly, but he's gonna take a huge pay cut.

But all the hot chocolate he can drink.

Will be interesting test between Rupert and his much more moderate children as to how this plays out.

04-18-2017 , 06:32 PM

#26694

fatkid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vaya

I'll bite. What was the pro play here Sherlock?

04-18-2017 , 06:42 PM

#26695

eyebooger

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 59,261

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

Nope

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where-to-be-born_Index

Edit: Slow pony

How come France/UK/Japan are so low?

If I could be reborn at random without any existing ties, those countries wouldn't be my first choice, but I'm snap-taking them (and probably about 4 dozen other countries/territories) over the US.

04-18-2017 , 06:43 PM

#26696

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 84,591

Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

You know what would REALLY piss Trump off? If Ossoff wins outright tonight (no run-off) and then comes out thanking Trump for raising his popularity enough to win.

That would feed his ego as someone who can boost popularity because he's so well known

04-18-2017 , 07:00 PM

#26697

Our House

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Something like "See? Stick with me and you'll WIN! I make winners out of people!"? Yeah, I guess I can see it.

04-18-2017 , 07:01 PM

#26698

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by raradevils

So it will be like it was the majority of the Obama years?

Quote:

Originally Posted by raradevils

I was just pointing out that things haven't changed in Washington.

They certainly haven't changed with you.

04-18-2017 , 07:03 PM

#26699

ReasonableGuy

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,617

In case anyone GAF about how USA#1 fails in healthcare (in re: derail upthread):
The Mortality Games: U.S. Is Disqualified In Trials For Health Olympics