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04-18-2017 , 03:10 PM

#26626

ASAP17

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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

Do the people who work in conservative media and think tanks openly joke about the hypocrisy? Do they even notice it? Like if Obama did any of this **** they would hit the moon. Like how does running the scam work? Is the first rule never admit it is a scam ?

They don't care, it's all about appeasing your supporters and that's it. Fine with openly lying as long as they keep their jobs.

04-18-2017 , 03:13 PM

#26627

aoFrantic

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Originally Posted by ASAP17

They don't care, it's all about appeasing your supporters and that's it. Fine with openly lying as long as they keep their jobs.

The conservative think tanks are part of the scam! Prominent conservative think tanks hire people like Dinesh D'Souza and Charles Murray! Those are their "intellectuals!"

Just look at how many prominent conservatives who are anti gay rights or huge christian moralists end up having affairs, touching little boys, embezzling or so many other things. Their entire lives are a scam.

04-18-2017 , 03:14 PM

#26628

Clovis8

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America is a total joke.

04-18-2017 , 03:21 PM

#26629

ASAP17

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

America is a total joke.

A total joke where even with Trump/Congress most of the world would die to live here and have our problems.

04-18-2017 , 03:23 PM

#26630

aoFrantic

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Originally Posted by ASAP17

A total joke where even with Trump/Congress most of the world would die to live here and have our problems.

This is really not true, and this thinking is part of the problem that led to Trump.

04-18-2017 , 03:25 PM

#26631

Our House

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Trump giving a Buy American, Hire American speech right now. Of course he starts right off by touting his amazing movement sweeping across the country and his monumental 90-day progress.

04-18-2017 , 03:26 PM

#26632

ASAP17

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

This is really not true, and this thinking is part of the problem that led to Trump.

No it really is lol believe me I hate Trump but we are top 10 in quality of life and by far the largest country of the nine above us.

04-18-2017 , 03:27 PM

#26633

SuperUberBob

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Originally Posted by Our House

Also, not enough pot/kettle in that statement. Is Pence dishonest or deluded about Trump in general? I'm honestly not sure about the guy.

Always figured Pence took the VP nod banking on Trump getting removed from office and becoming President without needing to run.

04-18-2017 , 03:28 PM

#26634

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May not be that way forever but to say the USA is a total joke flat out is stupid. Most of the world depends on us to be a leader which is why Trump has been so scary/puzzling to many around the globe.

04-18-2017 , 03:31 PM

#26635

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Originally Posted by ASAP17

No it really is lol believe me I hate Trump but we are top 10 in quality of life and by far the largest country of the nine above us.

You ranked 19th in 2016.

http://www.socialprogressimperative....in-Report1.pdf

04-18-2017 , 03:31 PM

#26636

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Oh good, another EO signing after this speech. I wonder what's hidden in this one that ****s the people and beefs up CEOs.

04-18-2017 , 03:31 PM

#26637

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Originally Posted by ASAP17

No it really is lol believe me I hate Trump but we are top 10 in quality of life and by far the largest country of the nine above us.

canada is way bigger

and better

than the united states of america

04-18-2017 , 03:33 PM

#26638

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Originally Posted by ASAP17

We only lead in the sense that nobody can do a damn thing about our bull****. To state we aren't a total joke is stupid especially on the world stage, all we've done my lifetime is waste a bunch of $ on stupid wars that have only been a bad thing for the people of the country + our own, let corruption get away with it every damn time, and let authoritarianism and dictatorships skyrocket. Only thing different with the trump election is he's going all the way in that regard.

04-18-2017 , 03:34 PM

#26639

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

You ranked 19th in 2016.

Given the sweeping Trump movement and 90-day progress, no doubt the ranking is higher this year.

04-18-2017 , 03:34 PM

#26640

ASAP17

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

canada is way bigger

and better

than the united states of america

I meant population, I should've clarified and I'm sure plenty of Americans would be ok with living in Canada. You guys would be unhappy with that though haha...

04-18-2017 , 03:35 PM

#26641

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ASAP, the world doesn't "depend on the USA to be a leader" and them believing they have to be has arguably created more problems than solutions post WWII.

The USA is really mediocre at healthcare/education, the backbone of most quality of life research. Not sure why you think the USA could be top 10 when it is disastrous at both of these things.

04-18-2017 , 03:35 PM

#26642

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Originally Posted by ASAP17

No it really is lol believe me I hate Trump but we are top 10 in quality of life and by far the largest country of the nine above us.

Nope

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where-to-be-born_Index

Edit: Slow pony

04-18-2017 , 03:35 PM

#26643

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canada is way bigger

and better

than the united states of america

LOL Trump attacking Canada as we speak.

EDIT: Keep going after our allies you ****tard.

04-18-2017 , 03:37 PM

#26644

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Originally Posted by ASAP17

I meant population, I should've clarified and I'm sure plenty of Americans would be ok with living in Canada. You guys would be unhappy with that though haha...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1zqOYBabXmA

04-18-2017 , 03:38 PM

#26645

ASAP17

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Nope

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where-to-be-born_Index

Edit: Slow pony

Yep.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index

04-18-2017 , 03:39 PM

#26646

ASAP17

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

Oh no? Ok I'm glad I had some random post with zero facts straighten me out. Thanks.

04-18-2017 , 03:41 PM

#26647

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Oh no? Ok I'm glad I had some random post with zero facts straighten me out. Thanks.

You think it's a controversial opinion to state that the USA is not even competitive with many countries in healthcare/education? Really? I'd love for you to expand on this.

04-18-2017 , 03:41 PM

#26648

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We call ourselves a democracy yet the person who won the vote by 2.9 million didn't get to be president. Reps choose their voters through gerrymandering, rather than voters choosing their reps. We allow systems of mass incarceration and voter suppression to continue actively attacking the freedoms of people of color yet proclaim ourselves to be the most free country in the world. So yeah, pretty much a joke.

04-18-2017 , 03:43 PM

#26649

ASAP17

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

You think it's a controversial opinion to state that the USA is not even competitive with many countries in healthcare/education? Really? I'd love for you to expand on this.

You edited that in afterwords because you realized your OP was ****. I'm sure you would but this whole discussion is very subjective and now a waste of time. See ya.

04-18-2017 , 03:44 PM

#26650

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Originally Posted by ASAP17

You edited that in afterwords because you realized your OP was ****. I'm sure you would but this whole discussion is very subjective and now a waste of time. See ya.

So, you believe that the USA thinking it has to be a "world leader" led to positive effects in Vietnam, Guatemala, Cambodia, Laos and numerous other places?
I'm sure the people of those countries were really glad that people like you thinking rah rah USA #1 rah rah killed millions of their family members.

Don't put up this bull**** then back out like a coward when you don't like the truth and you're told that the USA isn't the greatest country on earth.

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