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04-17-2017 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Sklansky absolutely supported and continues to support Trump, ATC, what's this chez understudy bit? Angling for a modship of Economics or something?
People who start threads that are literally and intentionally about mocking the ignorance of Trump supporters don't tend to be Trump supporters themselves.

ETA: Oh yeah, and the same thread was used by Sklansky to argue for policies that would literally disenfranchise those same Trump supporters (and this was his stated intent for those policies).
04-17-2017 , 11:41 PM
And people who raise preflop clearly have a good hand, come on, don't play dumb with this ****.
04-17-2017 , 11:46 PM
It's as if people on this board never met contrarians and people who like to play Devil's advocate before. Like, ****ing, branch out and meet some STEM people.
04-17-2017 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
It's as if people on this board never met contrarians and people who like to play Devil's advocate before. Like, ****ing, branch out and meet some STEM people.
Uh, those people mostly supported Trump, too
04-17-2017 , 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/17/politi...icy/index.html

Trump is going to start paying for China to do what is in it's best interest. What a cuck.
He's going to get played so hard. Not in a good way either, because we all get to suffer from it.
04-17-2017 , 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Uh, those people mostly supported Trump, too
Errr, cite or ban? I'm in a math department in ****ing Oklahoma, and maybe two faculty members voted for Trump.
04-17-2017 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
And people who raise preflop clearly have a good hand, come on, don't play dumb with this ****.
No.

Which position is insane?

(1) A person is who they represent themselves as for literally months and years.

(2) A person is running a sustained lie for months and years for absolutely no gain.

It isn't even like Sklansky is some awval searching for the board's approval. He regularly posts some incredibly dumb **** that will raise the ire of the forum. He is who he says he is. You can tell because he has no shame.
04-18-2017 , 12:01 AM
Trump is so impotent and clueless on policy that he is desperate to try and pass the ball to China and make it "their problem". Really pathetic. Love how the right wing media is totally fine with all of this!
04-18-2017 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Errr, cite or ban? I'm in a math department in ****ing Oklahoma, and maybe two faculty members voted for Trump.
The STEM graduate contrarian tends to have "contrarian" views on some but not all issues. You can get an idea of what their views are by which spots they pick.

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
No.

Which position is insane?

(1) A person is who they represent themselves as for literally months and years.

(2) A person is running a sustained lie for months and years for absolutely no gain.

It isn't even like Sklansky is some awval searching for the board's approval. He regularly posts some incredibly dumb **** that will raise the ire of the forum. He is who he says he is. You can tell because he has no shame.
It's not a sustained lie, and he absolutely is who he says he is. You just aren't good at reading between the lines, and you try to resolve contradictions by ignoring the larger quantity of evidence(posts) in favor of the easier to understand(self-reporting).

Sklansky almost certainly didn't vote, by the way, and if he did I'd guess he would've voted for Clinton. But he's a Trump supporter. His worldview is one that accepts right wing premises uncritically, and there's a reason he only plays gotcha games with one side of the aisle.
04-18-2017 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/17/politi...icy/index.html

Trump is going to start paying for China to do what is in it's best interest. What a cuck.
Looks like some serious BS in there. Trump and the derposhere are taking credit for China turning away North Korean coal, but China barred NK coal on Feb. 26th. It just happened I guess that some ship was turned away.
04-18-2017 , 12:14 AM
I was just getting a late meal and was treated to a conversation at the table behind me, 3 Trump supporters talking about how easy it would be to take North Korea, and China too if they have a problem with it. Because aircraft carriers
04-18-2017 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
It's not a sustained lie, and he absolutely is who he says he is. You just aren't good at reading between the lines, and you try to resolve contradictions by ignoring the larger quantity of evidence(posts) in favor of the easier to understand(self-reporting).

Sklansky almost certainly didn't vote, by the way, and if he did I'd guess he would've voted for Clinton. But he's a Trump supporter. His worldview is one that accepts right wing premises uncritically, and there's a reason he only plays gotcha games with one side of the aisle.
Ok. But now you're setting up a largely meaningless notion to me, like who he REALLY is in his secret heart of hearts, rather than how he actually votes in a private voting booth. And I don't even find your case here compelling, as he also accepts left wing premises. Many of his recent posts have been about wealth redistribution, for example.

You can correctly argue that he holds some right wingish beliefs, like IQ tests at the polls or w/e it is that he wants, but that doesn't make him essentially a right winger. And if you called him essentially a right winger, you'd at least be more right than you are now, calling him essentially a Trump supporter. Of the right wing notions I might suppose DS supports, they would not be Trumpian. DS is not populist or even faux populist in any way. He doesn't "love the poorly educated." He is an unabashed intellectual elitist.

You can make a decent argument that DS is essentially not a left winger (in his heart of hearts), but that's pretty far from what you're saying.
04-18-2017 , 12:54 AM
David is not a right winger but he probably hangs out with a bunch of right wingers (such as Mason). They make a lot of arguments to him about how Trump is not that bad, and for some reason (probably because he's always around right-wingers) he finds the arguments to be at least semi-legitimate so he posts them here. Then they are instantly torn apart. Rinse and repeat.
04-18-2017 , 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/17/politi...icy/index.html

Trump is going to start paying for China to do what is in it's best interest. What a cuck.
I thought China was ripping us off and we just needed someone to make a better deal? WTF is with this guy?
04-18-2017 , 12:59 AM
Trump is setting up the rationale for building his hotels in China, continuing to make his ties there and assorted graft like Chinese banks forgiving his debt.
04-18-2017 , 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
So if they were drowning in a lake as you walked past, and you could easily save them but are in a state that doesn't legally require it, you wouldn't do it (assuming no one could see you walk on by)?
Pretty obvious to not save anyone whose death would be +EV for humanity.

People like Trump, Putin, or Erdogan are easy choices. Feinstein is probably a close call.
04-18-2017 , 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
So if they were drowning in a lake as you walked past, and you could easily save them but are in a state that doesn't legally require it, you wouldn't do it (assuming no one could see you walk on by)?
tell the truth, David, if you walked by Trump drowning in a lake, it would not matter which state, you'd simply toss him a rock. yes?
04-18-2017 , 01:17 AM
Just found this thread. Pretty funny stuff.

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His worldview is one that accepts right wing premises uncritically
This should be classified as a mental condition that one should seek help for immediately.

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3 Trump supporters talking about how easy it would be to take North Korea, and China too if they have a problem with it. Because aircraft carriers
And herein lies the overall problem with most Chump supporters. Willful, over simplifying ignorance with zero curiosity or thought about said topic.
04-18-2017 , 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by daca
i swear we're living in a black mirror episode


https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/853979886721146882
Wait wat the rabbit has a mic.
04-18-2017 , 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I'd like to see seniority be less important in congress. I'm not saying we should keep Feinstein, but her seniority is an argument to overcome for Californians and Democrats.
I remember experiencing the same sentiment when Pennsylvania decided to primary Arlen Specter and replace him with Rick Santorum.
04-18-2017 , 06:53 AM
He got started early today with the tweets. I won't post them in case more are coming, but so far...

1. Bash Obama, Trump better.
2. Bash Jon Ossoff, Rs better.
3. Bash Jon Ossoff, Rs better.

EDIT: I missed his self promotion of a Fox interview this morning. 4 tweets so far, not 3.
04-18-2017 , 07:32 AM
I just watched the F&F interview and saw The Hill article about it. Wanted to comment on this one part:

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"Somebody said currency manipulation. What am I going to do? In the middle of him talking with North Korea, I'm going to hit them with currency manipulation," he said. "This is the fake media that just does a number...Nobody's every seen such a positive response on our behalf from China, and then the fake media goes 'Donald Trump has changed his stance on China.'"
It's mentally unstable to call the media fake for reporting your exact printed, verifiable words and attack them for not reporting what the words don't say. It's equally unstable to change facts based on how someone treats you. I know this isn't really a breakthrough, that he does it all the time, but it's just so frustrating! China doesn't switch back and forth from being a currency manipulator because of what Xi feels about Trump. Even Trump has to know that.
04-18-2017 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
Wait wat the rabbit has a mic.
I know right? Even if it's Bannon under there, he still doesn't need a mic.
04-18-2017 , 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Ok. But now you're setting up a largely meaningless notion to me, like who he REALLY is in his secret heart of hearts, rather than how he actually votes in a private voting booth. And I don't even find your case here compelling, as he also accepts left wing premises. Many of his recent posts have been about wealth redistribution, for example.

You can correctly argue that he holds some right wingish beliefs, like IQ tests at the polls or w/e it is that he wants, but that doesn't make him essentially a right winger. And if you called him essentially a right winger, you'd at least be more right than you are now, calling him essentially a Trump supporter. Of the right wing notions I might suppose DS supports, they would not be Trumpian. DS is not populist or even faux populist in any way. He doesn't "love the poorly educated." He is an unabashed intellectual elitist.

You can make a decent argument that DS is essentially not a left winger (in his heart of hearts), but that's pretty far from what you're saying.
lol, sklanksy's recent threads have been, "thoughts you have when you unquestioningly accept most right wing principles, while also being somewhat smart."

or

"Isn't it crazy how easy it would be to solve these problems using the magic of the market and a small nudge? Too bad liberals are getting in the way with their big governments."
04-18-2017 , 07:56 AM
Soooo, in addition to Mar-a-Lago membership fees doubling to 200k since inauguration, among other things benefitting the Trump brand, and in addition to the change of heart with Chinese currency manipulation, we have Ivanka to worry about too.

Ivanka Inc. goes to Washington: A timeline

If someone wants to analyze the whole timeline, go for it. I just wanted to point out this part because it's related to what I said above.

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April 6, 2017: Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner, sit next to Chinese President Xi Jinping and his wife, Peng Liyuan, at a state dinner at Mar-a-Lago. That same day, China grants her company preliminary approval for three trademarks that confer monopoly rights to sell Ivanka brand jewelry, bags and spa services in the world's second-largest economy.
Nice to know that Daddy's little girl is having direct influence over more foreign policy decisions than just how many tomahawks to throw at the chemical baby killer.

      
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