Trump Is Just George W. Bush But Racist

As Trump lurches to the neo-con corporatism right wing with a mix of alt-right white grievance nationalist habbadashery, we should bear in mind the last 8 years was a preview for all of it, not a drastic departure on the right from the Bush years. I don't think anyone other than Beltway pundits treated the Tea Party as anything but that, but it's worth repeating that Breitbart Republicanism is a useful campaign tool but couldn't survive governance even haphazardly implemented for 100 days and that the return to bombs and bankers with a mix of racism is basically the Tea Party wet dream and only a slight deviation away from Bushism.

'Fox & Friends' cheers Afghan bomb video
Exactly what I was ranting about last night. Thumping idiots.

I was wondering last night what the line is on cheering this, like basically Trump can invoke national security and bomb anyone he wants within the 90-day window before he gets Congressional authorization. How far can he go while 30-50% of the country blindly cheers it? How many countries could he get away with bombing?

I suspect the list of countries is longer than we would like to even think about. I think there are upwards of 20 countries Trump could bomb that most of the country and the media would patriotically cheer, and that's the low end of my guess.

I fear we may find out for sure on some of them if he keeps getting ratings bumps from it.

Could you imagine the rhetoric coming out of the right if Russia, Syria, and Iran had issued a joint warning to the Obama administration?

The guys out here at the AFB I'm working at were all excited yesterday.

It's ****ing grotesque at this point.

The MOAB was dropped on a "tunnel and cave network" that was hyped when Osama bin Laden was abiding there. According to the wiki page, it didn't turn out to be all that impressive. I doubt the MOAB was really needed here. At least there's no evidence the 36 dead guys would be any more dead. But the since the intended effect is more psychological, the strike was clearly a bigly success... on awval.

20 way too low, write down every country people couldn't place on a map to start. Would we cheer bombing UK/Canada/Germany is the real question and definitely 30% would approve of that anyway as trump ran on the "america **** everybody else" platform and they still support him so that's whatever at this point. Nothing america loves more than bomb dropping on people, obama bombed people, clinton bombed people, bush bombed people, we're still in afghanistan/iraq and etc. Ofc Trump is gonna bomb more people, and bigger bombs and maybe some people are tired of it, but majority seem PUMPED so yeah.

Poll #'s gotta be back up in the 40's since we haven't been told those lately I see.

Of course it is a very misleading graph. having a cloture vote does not equal a filibuster. Reid Senate the % of cloture votes failing was extremely low compared to predecessors.

https://journals.law.stanford.edu/st...ors-made-60-51

The MOAB was probably a show of force but we drop bombs in Afganistan probably every day so the media really just needs to stfu on this one.

https://www.propublica.org/article/d..._medium=social

Normies don't know who that is, but every 2p2 politard doesn't even need to click through. The conservative intellectual movement is such a ****ing joke but it has real consequences.

From field tests in this forum I think making Murray Rothbard the Reverend Wright of 2018 might pay some real dividends. These people cannot help themselves.

Oh I think that's a very low number...at least for the first few times it happens. We've become experts at rationalizing what our government does and make it fit into the 'we're not the baddies' worldview

it's weird how the USA dropping a bomb on jihadis* in the Afghan desert persuant to the 2001 AUMF leads to leftist tears, maybe the right-wing had a point re. "virtue signaling"

*these dudes want an Islamic caliphate and sharia law, they don't hate America because of what an average person would consider American wrongdoing, they hate America because it's existence is opposed to fundamentalist Islam

I said 30-50% AND the media though. I think the line where the media stops cheering is pretty different. I agree the 30% number is way, way higher and basically includes all of Africa, all of the Middle East, a lot of Asia, and some of Eastern Europe. The media is key, as that plays into his approval ratings.

no you dumb ****, they hate america because we invade their lands for oil, kill their leaders, and drop bombs(drones) on them at will.

This is such a fantasy that is sadly held by so many. Ask yourself, why is America the target of their ire more than other nations. Hint: it's not because of all your "freedom".

Hint number 2: see my earlier post today.

America makes agreements with the leaders of those countries to have American military in the area
Islamists oppose this because they want to control the area entirely for Sharia

They hate the military presence because it pushes back against their desire for a caliphate, not because those American military are otherwise harming the people

American logic.

Someone killed an American. It's time to bomb their part of the world off the face of earth no matter the cost on lives and treasure.

America kills someone from another nation. They have no justification for retaliation or even ill-will. American is obviously a force for good.

They would hate us regardless of our actions because we are apostates.

The actions you list above motivate more people to join their cause.

Guess who is off on another vacation? This scumbag works less than I do.

You are correct and incorrect.

Of course, jihadists would hate America no matter what like they hate Canada and most of Europe. That is not the point. The reason there has been 20 years of active terrorism and war at this point is directly do to US history of intervention.

Had the US done nothing in the Middle East over the past 20 years there is a strong case to be made that the world would be far better off and Islamic terrorism would be an uncommon occurrence like it was for decades.

I'm a non violent person, but if some random middle eastern country was constantly dropping bombs on the USA, I would join the cause to **** them up.


Now reverse the roles, thats why they hate us.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-visitor-logs/

America wasn't bombing Afghanistan before the attacks of 9/11.

America isn't indiscriminately destroying the Muslim world, check the cities here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...mber_countries USA is attacking jihadis hiding in deserts and mountain caves before they can mount further terror attacks all over the world

If you were a moderate person in a city and fundamentalist terrorists were killed in the remote wilderness maybe you should try to discern whether or not they deserved it for reasons beyond simple nationalism