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04-14-2017 , 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Money2Burn

Would someone be able to point me in the direction of an article or good graphic that explains how much Republicans ratcheted up the use of the filibuster during the Obama years? I'm in an argument with someone and he has taken issue with calling Republican obstructionism unprecedented. I did some googling but I couldn't find the articles/ graphics I remember seeing on the topic.

Here's a good graphic I remember from a few days ago.

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Originally Posted by th14

https://twitter.com/DomenicoNPR/stat...20263250583552

04-14-2017 , 08:24 AM

#26102

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So yes, Clinton probably would have waged war on ISIS. But the difference is Trump has declared war on billions of Muslim people all over the world--all Muslim people. He has singled them out as the enemy by attempting to ban all Muslims from the United States and banning refugees from countries that are being terrorized by ISIS and other militant groups. It goes to show you that whenever Republicans complain about the values of the Islamic world, they only mean that as a justification for going on a full-on Holy War against those people. They don't have any intention of helping people get out of a bad situation at all.

04-14-2017 , 08:36 AM

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And if there's one thing I hope we've learned in the last fifteen years, you can't bomb your way to victory in the Middle East. But sure, keep ignoring the lessons of history and making the situation in the region even worse, 45*.

04-14-2017 , 08:48 AM

#26104

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And here is Avwal to tell us all that Trump is a military mastermind.

04-14-2017 , 08:49 AM

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Meanwhile, over there by the Koreas...

North Korea threatens its own pre-emptive attack

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PYONGYANG, North Korea (AP) — President Donald Trump's tweets are adding fuel to a "vicious cycle" of tensions on the Korean Peninsula, North Korea's vice foreign minister told The Associated Press in an exclusive interview Friday. The official added that if the U.S. shows any sign of "reckless" military aggression, Pyongyang is ready to launch a pre-emptive strike of its own.

Vice Minister Han Song Ryol said Pyongyang has determined the Trump administration is "more vicious and more aggressive" than that of his predecessor, Barack Obama. He added that North Korea will keep building up its nuclear arsenal in "quality and quantity" and said Pyongyang is ready to go to war if that's what Trump wants.

As words get hotter and heavier, the ball is back in Trump's court.

04-14-2017 , 08:54 AM

#26106

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Originally Posted by otatop

Here's a good graphic I remember from a few days ago.

Thanks.

04-14-2017 , 09:10 AM

#26107

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Originally Posted by Lawnmower Man

A Scammer Bigly

04-14-2017 , 09:39 AM

#26108

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

And here is Avwal to tell us all that Trump is a military mastermind.

Trump didn't even specifically authorize MOAB. It was authorized by one of the generals. It's just a ****ing BIG bomb that the news media slurped up. And because Trump is President (TM) posters here just have to find something wrong with it.

The point I'm trying to make (and failing obviously) is that blowing ISIS out of caves in Afghanistan (with the help of the Afghan government) with a bomb isn't another step toward a Trump Reich.

There's plenty of other Trump fails, this isn't one.

04-14-2017 , 09:39 AM

#26109

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Originally Posted by Our House

Meanwhile, over there by the Koreas...

North Korea threatens its own pre-emptive attack

As words get hotter and heavier, the ball is back in Trump's court.

Who had "less than 100 days" in the "how long until trump brings the world to the edge of nuclear warfare" pool?

04-14-2017 , 09:46 AM

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How much you wanna bet he tries to take the credit for it if it turns out to be a great military move in a few months? Trump does that sort of intellectually dishonest thing repeatedly. On top of it, he actually believes we aren't smart enough to see through the charade.

04-14-2017 , 09:48 AM

#26111

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His supporters aren't.

04-14-2017 , 09:55 AM

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Trump did authorize this, because he's the head of the military

Also, killing 36 people with the Mother of All Bombs isn't helping to stop ISIS. You kill 36 with a giant f bomb, tomorrow, 100 more are there to sign up because you just killed their brother/dad/son/cousin, etc

Its like the Sopranos. Top dog goes to jail, someone immediately replaces them.

04-14-2017 , 09:55 AM

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Who had "less than 100 days" in the "how long until trump brings the world to the edge of nuclear warfare" pool?

literally everyone

04-14-2017 , 10:01 AM

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Funny how you never ever ever make a post about all these failings you see. You only post when you get a chance to support cheeto nazi.

04-14-2017 , 10:04 AM

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Even Hitler didn't use fuel-air explosives!

04-14-2017 , 10:10 AM

#26116

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Awval,

The bomb probably recruited ten times as many IS fighters as is killed, maybe 100 times.

04-14-2017 , 10:10 AM

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A senior Russian lawmaker says the U.S. is a greater threat to global peace than North Korea.

Konstantin Kosachev, the head of the Foreign Affairs Committee in the upper house of Russian parliament, said Friday "the most alarming thing about the current U.S. administration is that you can't be sure if it is bluffing or really going to implement its threats."

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...04-14-00-38-08

we are beyond pathetic right now. thanks middle america.

04-14-2017 , 10:19 AM

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My hot take is that the USAF has 15 or so of these MOABs sitting around gathering dust and they're looking for any excuse to pop one off.

04-14-2017 , 10:22 AM

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http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/10/07/gen....under.attack/

A little old news. 15 and a half year old story about bombing Afghanistan. The longest war in US history. One of these decades we will finally bomb it into peace and stability.

04-14-2017 , 10:25 AM

#26120

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seriously can you blame them?

what if russia dropped the MOAB on some town in Kansas that had some "terrorist"

You don't think americans would rally around that enemy?

I'm non violent and even I would want to

04-14-2017 , 10:29 AM

#26121

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Originally Posted by microbet

It's obvious you are just a couple dead brown people away from forever fixing the Middle East.

If you count every single American war death you get 1.1million, half of those are from the civil war.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/...died-u-s-wars/

It's estimated America is responsible for 20-30 million deaths since WWII. That's 10,000 9/11's and five Holocausts. These deaths have been in 37 different countries which is roughly 1:5 countries on earth.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-has-...war-ii/5492051

Maybe it's time to try a different approach?

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04-14-2017 , 10:42 AM

#26122

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Originally Posted by microbet

Awval,

The bomb probably recruited ten times as many IS fighters as is killed, maybe 100 times.

doubt that - Trump's anti-Islamic statements plus his childish gloating and bubbling about bombing on the other hand.

04-14-2017 , 10:42 AM

#26123

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His motives of bombing ISIS?

Newsflash. President Hillary Clinton would have bombed ISIS as well.

Thank god that low stamina war whore didn't get elected.

04-14-2017 , 10:51 AM

#26124

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Or that crazy warmonger Bernie. Imagine?

04-14-2017 , 11:00 AM

#26125

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https://twitter.com/CNN/status/852894347783806977

Think Trump has one of those, with a control center inside for creating the very doomsday he's supposed to be hiding from?

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