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04-11-2017 , 04:58 PM

#25626

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Originally Posted by yeSpiff

This is the day Sean Spicer became Press Secretary.

5 stars

04-11-2017 , 05:01 PM

#25627

einbert

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It's almost like there are Nazis in the White House.

04-11-2017 , 05:02 PM

#25628

bobman0330

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

Not an expert on how all that works but I would think all parties would guarantee he is allowed to leave safely and just take the huge win that he is out of power. Then he goes into exile somewhere.

But maybe that isn't an option.

Either way, I do think we have to do something about him now (or 15 years ago)

If his response to being backed in a corner is going to be carnage, wouldn't it be better to test him while there is a far better possibility it can be contained?

If Kim is willing to take this deal, why wouldn't he have just negotiated a peaceful transition to X when he first took power? Why did he take power in the first place? Dictators want power, that's why they're dictators. People who just want money become CEOs or I-bankers.

Also, what is X that Kim is leaving to facilitate and how does it satisfy both China, the U.S. and South Korea?

04-11-2017 , 05:04 PM

#25629

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

It's almost like there are Nazis in the White House.

Only in your imagination einbert.

04-11-2017 , 05:05 PM

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The Daily Mail published this on April 5th: The Nazi death gas so horrific even Hitler feared using it: How Sarin was accidentally created in 1938... and can lead to death in less than 10 seconds

*sarin was inadvertently created by Nazi scientists tasked with insecticide/pesticide research, so Germany wouldn't have food shortages during the war
*Hitler didn't use sarin against enemy troops from a combination of his own experience of mustard gas in WW1 and a fear the Allies would retaliate with their own chemical weapons against Germans

someone on Fox News probably referenced this, Trump saw it and said to Spicer "Even Hitler didn't use chemical weapons!" and Spicer ran with his boss's talking point

04-11-2017 , 05:11 PM

#25631

einbert

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Organizations call for Sebastian Gorka's resignation for ties to far-right group
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...gary/99254338/

Steve Bannon runs an anti-Semitic website, is a misogynist and will be one of Donald Trump’s senior advisers
http://www.salon.com/2016/11/14/stev...nior-advisors/

Trump’s White House facing backlash for excluding Jews on Holocaust Remembrance Day
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2958978

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The solution to online 'harassment' is simple: Women should log off'

A article in July argued that women are "screwing up the internet for men by invading every space we have online and ruining it with attention-seeking and a needy, demanding, touchy-feely form of modern feminism."

'Bill Kristol: Republican spoiler, renegade Jew'

A post in May described a "third party effort to block Trump's path to the White House" that Breitbart claimed was orchestrated by the prominent conservative and Trump critic Bill Kristol. The headline is one of the site's most infamous, and was featured this fall in a Democratic political ad.

'Trannies whine about hilarious Bruce Jenner billboard'

A December 2015 article criticized a campaign to take down a billboard mocking Caitlyn Jenner after she went public with her transition last year. "Transsexuals have forced a company in New Zealand to take down a billboard poking fun at Bruce Jenner and his man-parts," the article said.

'Birth control makes women unattractive and crazy'

A December 2015 article made a case against birth control and concluded, "We need the kids if we're to breed enough to keep the Muslim invaders at bay." The article was one of many blasted by critics of Breitbart.

'Suck it up buttercups: Dangerous ****** Tour returns to colleges in September'

An article in July touted tour dates for a show headlined by Breitbart tech editor Milo Yiannopoulos, a prolific Breitbart writer who was banned from Twitter this summer for violating rules against abuse.

'Hoist it high and proud: The Confederate flag proclaims a glorious heritage'

An article published in July 2015, weeks after a mass shooting at a historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina, slammed critics of the Confederate flag, a symbol embraced by the gunman. "Those who initiated identity politics are attempting to obliterate the Southern identity," the author of the Breitbart piece wrote. "Every tree, every rooftop, every picket fence, every telegraph pole in the South should be festooned with the Confederate battle flag."

' "Would you rather your child had feminism or cancer?" '

A February post on the website included a video created by the Michigan Review, a University of Michigan publication, to promote a debate on campus featuring Yiannopoulos. The publication asked participants the question.

'Gay rights have made us dumber, it's time to get back in the closet'

A June 2015 article by Yiannopoulos, who is openly gay, argued in favor of "forcing gays back into the closet." "I find it depressing that my fellow **** have stopped breeding," Yiannopoulos wrote.

'Science proves it: Fat-shaming works'

A July article argued that overweight people should be shamed into losing weight. "A 20-year-old has their entire life ahead of them, and those are the people we should focus on shaming into shape," the article said.

10 of Breitbart's most incendiary headlines
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/14/medi...nes/index.html

President Trump’s ‘America First’ slogan was popularized by Nazi sympathizers
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poste...=.4e8181249a19

Bannon constantly references "globalists," including reference Jare Kushner (a jew), which is an anti-semitic slur.
Steve Bannon Calls Jared Kushner a ‘Cuck’ and ‘Globalist’ Behind His Back
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-his-back.html

04-11-2017 , 05:16 PM

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Anne Frank Center calls on Trump to fire spokesman Spicer for ‘Holocaust denial’
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/poli...#storylink=cpy

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The Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect called on President Donald Trump to fire Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, for what the center is calling “engaging in Holocaust denial” during his press briefing on Tuesday.

While discussing Syrian President Bashar Assad, Spicer brought up former German leader Adolf Hitler.

“We didn’t use chemical weapons in World War II. You know, you had a — someone as despicable as Hitler who didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons,” Spicer said.

[Hitler ‘didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons,’ Spicer says. Wrong.]

He attempted to clarify his remarks at the podium. “He was not using gas on his own people in the same way Assad was,” Spicer said.

He later clarified after the briefing. “In no way was I trying to lessen the horrendous nature of the Holocaust. I was trying to draw a distinction of the tactic of using airplanes to drop chemical weapons on population centers. Any attack on innocent people is reprehensible and inexcusable,” Spicer said in a statement released by the White House.

The Anne Frank Center, the U.S. national organization in the worldwide group of Anne Frank organizations, quickly responded to Spicer’s comments.

“On Passover no less, Sean Spicer has engaged in Holocaust denial, the most offensive form of fake news imaginable, by denying Hitler gassed millions of Jews to death. Spicer’s statement is the most evil slur upon a group of people we have ever heard from a White House press secretary. Sean Spicer now lacks the integrity to serve as White House press secretary, and President Trump must fire him at once,” said Steven Goldstein, executive director of the Anne Frank Center for Mutual Respect.

04-11-2017 , 05:24 PM

#25633

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Trumpets wouldn't consider them nazis unless they rock up in full ss regalia, the same way they don't believe voter id is racist because it doesnt explicitly reference black people.

04-11-2017 , 06:06 PM

#25634

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I'm as anti Trump as they come, but this feels a lot like an oops and nothing like Holocaust denial or what have you.

04-11-2017 , 06:06 PM

#25635

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Originally Posted by bobman0330

Well his back isn't up against the wall right now for one. He's been doing whatever he wants and developing weapons over there for quite some time. If he is looking at the realization of his own demise, he may be more likely to deal.

He's basically been given carte blanch to develop nukes by the international community for the last 15 years, so of course he feels emboldened right now.

And I have no idea what NK would look like after he left, don't think anyone does.

04-11-2017 , 06:07 PM

#25636

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Trump probably told Spicer "There is a decent chance I'm about to start WW3, so say something controversial to grab some headlines this morning. We need it for the news cycle"

04-11-2017 , 06:13 PM

#25637

BroadwaySushy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

I'm as anti Trump as they come, but this feels a lot like an oops and nothing like Holocaust denial or what have you.

Sshh, don't say that to einbert. W'ell get another cut and paste multi-post.

04-11-2017 , 06:14 PM

#25638

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Originally Posted by microbet

I don't know. I'm not bullish on their technology and I'd guess they'd have trouble successfully hitting anything anywhere. I sure hope that's the case, but moreso that there's no attempt. I was just thinking that if I were concerned about LA I could take my family and leave.

I mean they would have 1 shot, with the consequence of being vaporized whether or not their shot was on the mark.

The one thing about the Trump/Kim dynamic is that they are both bull**** artists whose bark is 1000x worse than their actual bite. Game likely respects game, though the U.S. military is not actually into b.s. Their job is to come up with actual, concrete plans.

04-11-2017 , 06:17 PM

#25639

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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

I'm as anti Trump as they come, but this feels a lot like an oops and nothing like Holocaust denial or what have you.

If it was just a one-off thing, maybe. But you have to look at it in the context of everything else this administration does.

04-11-2017 , 06:20 PM

#25640

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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

I'm as anti Trump as they come, but this feels a lot like an oops and nothing like Holocaust denial or what have you.

Nobody is saying they denied the Holocaust happened. BS is being his usual ignorant self and finding a way to defend nazis thought.

04-11-2017 , 06:23 PM

#25641

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

holy **** sean spicer thinks the jews weren't innocent.

he's been hanging around the white house a lot, and subconsciously picked it up

04-11-2017 , 06:26 PM

#25642

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But did they talk to Sklansky's friend from MIT?

04-11-2017 , 06:29 PM

#25643

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

holy **** sean spicer thinks the jews weren't innocent.

Maybe he just thinks aeroplanes are like the final insult. Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, but they'd gas you to your face.

04-11-2017 , 06:30 PM

#25644

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Quote:

Originally Posted by yeSpiff

This is the day Sean Spicer became Press Secretary.

rofl

04-11-2017 , 06:39 PM

#25645

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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn

Maybe he just thinks aeroplanes are like the final insult. Say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, but they'd gas you to your face.

And they threw in a scenic train ride as well.

04-11-2017 , 06:45 PM

#25646

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DudeImBetter

I'm as anti Trump as they come, but this feels a lot like an oops and nothing like Holocaust denial or what have you.

The repeated instances of "oops" out of Trump and his team add up.

04-11-2017 , 06:45 PM

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https://twitter.com/DLin71/status/851876199815155713

04-11-2017 , 06:47 PM

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i just saw the clip again, he said, "we didn't use chemical weapons in ww2", and went on to talk about the nazis

because he, deep down, considers himself to be a top nazi