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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

04-08-2017 , 07:21 AM
Someone needs to start a time traveller Trump twitter and just post all Trump's old tweets as warnings.
04-08-2017 , 07:39 AM
Could we get his faced morphed onto Jeff Goldbloom from "The Fly" remake?
04-08-2017 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by .Alex.
I'm confused, is the alt-right actually anti war? I thought for sure they'd be gung ho about nuking the middle east.
No, they aren't anti-war. I'm not sure what's going on but my guesses are:

They think bombing countries in the middle east is a neocon thing and neocons are run by the Jewish forces who are also behind the plan to allow immigrants into the United States, thus committing a "white genocide." When they talk about globalists, that's what they mean.

There's also the Russia connection. They see Russia as a rising alt-right nation that will destroy minorities and kill gays.

At a very basic level they don't think one finger should be lifted to help nonwhites who are getting killed.
04-08-2017 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 13ball

At a very basic level they don't think one finger should be lifted to help nonwhites who are getting killed.
It's 99.99% this.
04-08-2017 , 08:55 AM
How did they miss the runway? The shear level of incompetence of these people is staggering.

On a side note, the US has to be the most bizzare country on earth. I can't think of another democracy where everyone would be talking about how presidential it is to bomb people.

It's the least presidential thing possible.

How about doing the hard work of getting people healthcare, jobs, stable economic conditions, and civil liberties. That is presidential.

The US really has backwards priorities.
04-08-2017 , 09:06 AM
The US obsession with militarism as an expression of patriotism is not new and not healthy. I've posted before about how weird it is to me to see "Papa Johns supports our troops!" type ads in the US, that sort of thing would be well beyond the pale in Straya. Military service is seen as respectable, but a solemn necessity, not cause for celebration. A minute's silence for soldiers who gave their lives is common and respected, but cheerleading is inappropriate.
04-08-2017 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
How did they miss the runway? The shear level of incompetence of these people is staggering.

On a side note, the US has to be the most bizzare country on earth. I can't think of another democracy where everyone would be talking about how presidential it is to bomb people.

It's the least presidential thing possible.

How about doing the hard work of getting people healthcare, jobs, stable economic conditions, and civil liberties. That is presidential.

The US really has backwards priorities.
The Trump Doctrine: we won't take your refugees, but we'll bomb the **** out of you.
04-08-2017 , 09:24 AM


The GOAT.

Last edited by stinkubus; 04-08-2017 at 09:24 AM. Reason: Give the man his proppers.
04-08-2017 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
The Trump Doctrine: we won't take your refugees, but we'll bomb the **** out of you.
I've yet to hear the other side of this very valid point. How is it okay to spend $59 million to shoot missiles as a public relations stunt but not okay to let those babies temporarily into safety here?

Anyone got a link to an article that tries to justify this position?
04-08-2017 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
I've yet to hear the other side of this very valid point. How is it okay to spend $59 million to shoot missiles as a public relations stunt but not okay to let those babies temporarily into safety here?

Anyone got a link to an article that tries to justify this position?
www.breitbart.com
04-08-2017 , 09:41 AM
Carlin so good.
04-08-2017 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Had dinner with an old school buddy who went on to get his Phd in economics from Harvard. He is Jewish and when I asked him his opinion of Trump he expressed a fear that Trump is dangerous for Jews. But for a somewhat counter intuitive reason. He didn't disagree with me that Trump is not an anti Semite. Rather he saw that as the problem. Because Trump courted those anti Semites to get elected and now seems to be in the process of double crossing them. And at the behest of an Orthodox Jew no less!

When Trump was elected, the scum were merely feeling their oats and would do things like paint a swastika on my door. But my friend thinks that there is a good chance that their new attitude will be the more dangerous one of feeling used and betrayed and will result in greater hatred than before along with more nasty actions. Is he right?
My friend says that whatever truth there is to that further condemns team drumpf do hell. Is he right?

Spoiler:
04-08-2017 , 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroPimpin
Kushner > Bannon but wouldn't a falling out with Bannon cost him some of the ~ 30% of supporters that back him no matter what? plus the dirt Bannon must have.
This is why it's glorious.
04-08-2017 , 09:53 AM
It's like your bizzare movie rating system where anything sexual is taboo but death and destruction is ok for the kiddies.
04-08-2017 , 09:55 AM
lol Bannon

How could he possibly think he could ever win vs. Ivanka. Get a clue bro.
04-08-2017 , 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
The US obsession with militarism as an expression of patriotism is not new and not healthy. I've posted before about how weird it is to me to see "Papa Johns supports our troops!" type ads in the US, that sort of thing would be well beyond the pale in Straya. Military service is seen as respectable, but a solemn necessity, not cause for celebration. A minute's silence for soldiers who gave their lives is common and respected, but cheerleading is inappropriate.
It's not even new in the course of history. Roman military commanders would wage war exclusively for the triumph they would get after coming back. Nobody minced words with war. It was let's kill people, take their **** and celebrate back home.

Anyway, I find the adoration of soldiers in America expressed to be extremely shallow and insincere in most circumstances. If we really cared about soldiers, then why is the VA so underfunded? Why do I see homeless people holding out their VA card while asking for money? If we really cared, wouldn't somebody give that guy an apple?

Politicians run on a platform that includes expanding the VA's budget and supporting the troops with overwhelming support from both sides but never follow through once they are elected. Few can blame them for doing this without being a hypocrite because they are the manifestation of our actual behavior towards veterans: empty lip service followed by complete inaction.

Despite the fact that most people at their core don't really care about the military, it is still taboo to criticize the armed forces. It's a social front put up to maintain appearances. The first person to drop the charade gets cast aside for not conforming to this ridiculous social norm.

Even these comments would be construed as criticizing the military when I'm not. If you aren't showing unwavering support for any action soldiers take on behalf of the US government, then you aren't American. It's complete and utter bull**** but nobody has the confidence to stand up and say it.

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04-08-2017 , 09:58 AM
The right wing folks on my FB page came pretty hard saying the strikes were to save all the gassed children and save lives. Lol Assad just quoted as saying this would make him double his efforts to kill the rebels.
04-08-2017 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
I've yet to hear the other side of this very valid point. How is it okay to spend $59 million to shoot missiles as a public relations stunt but not okay to let those babies temporarily into safety here?

Anyone got a link to an article that tries to justify this position?
The mealymouthed answer will be that gee we'd love to take in the refugees but they can't be vetted properly.
04-08-2017 , 10:00 AM
Max Boot‏ Verified account @MaxBoot 2h2 hours ago

The Trump Doctrine: The US reserves the right to use force whenever POTUS is upset by what he sees on TV.
04-08-2017 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus


The GOAT.
(((Americans)))?

The Youtube channel that posted that is pretty awful. (I'm assuming you didn't notice, btw, so not accusing you of anything.)
04-08-2017 , 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
I've yet to hear the other side of this very valid point. How is it okay to spend $59 million to shoot missiles as a public relations stunt but not okay to let those babies temporarily into safety here?

Anyone got a link to an article that tries to justify this position?
There is no justification. People who hold that position just use jingoistic rhetoric and American exceptionalism as a thinly-veiled rationalization for poorly justified military actions.

Apparently there was another strike after hitting the airbase this time on a nearby town. Not sure who that was though.
04-08-2017 , 10:12 AM
I was looking for the shortest Carlin clip I could find that contained that bit. Did not vet the channel at all.
04-08-2017 , 10:13 AM
Trump's back golfing again.
04-08-2017 , 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
The US obsession with militarism as an expression of patriotism is not new and not healthy. I've posted before about how weird it is to me to see "Papa Johns supports our troops!" type ads in the US, that sort of thing would be well beyond the pale in Straya. Military service is seen as respectable, but a solemn necessity, not cause for celebration. A minute's silence for soldiers who gave their lives is common and respected, but cheerleading is inappropriate.
FWIW you may not want to watch literally any of our popular sporting events which usually include 5 Minutes of Fellating the Military pre-game/halftime or whatever, sometimes complete with a stunning show of potential military force where our jets go whiz bam boom over the stadium and the crowd goes bananas.

The thing that is even worse about this is that I think the militarism is almost completely divorced from patriotism now. It is now the valuable thing for its own sake.
04-08-2017 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
lol Bannon

How could he possibly think he could ever win vs. Ivanka. Get a clue bro.
Trump would pick Ivanka over any other person on Earth. Everyone knows this, right? Besides Bannon, I guess.

      
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