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04-07-2017 , 02:06 PM
Gorsuch confirmed.
04-07-2017 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99


Rany Jazereli is a Syrian-American baseball writer and KC Royals fan - who also writes about Syria from time to time. I've posted his stuff on here a few times. I trust his intuition more than pretty much any talking head on TV. At least I know he has no agenda beyond caring deeply about the people of Syria.
Thanks for the link.
04-07-2017 , 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by seattlelou
I think the cruise missile attack is the standard "tit for tat" response that keeps full blown wars erupting. I have been unable to follow the news lately is "OMG WW3!" the prevailing sentiment? My quick read is that world is applauding the move.
I think with hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced and the world basically doing nothing in response everyone is quick to Pat themselves on the back over this. It's pretty pathetic.
04-07-2017 , 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
I think with hundreds of thousands dead, millions displaced and the world basically doing nothing in response everyone is quick to Pat themselves on the back over this. It's pretty pathetic.
Yup. We've made it clear that chemical weapons are still an international taboo, but Assad should feel free to continue dropping barrel bombs on kids.
04-07-2017 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle
Gorsuch confirmed.
certain scenarios may *happen*, which would lead him to nominate more than 4 additional judges to the scotus, and they could all be confirmed, even before 2018. do you think trump was talking about his second amendment people?

or maybe he was messaging to his polonium-210 people
04-07-2017 , 02:30 PM
The Gorsuch confirmation is a complete embarassment to the Senate and the United States. The Senate should not have taken extraordinary steps to ram through a man who is far outside the judicial mainstream, especially at a time when the sitting President may not be legitimately the officeholder (as he is currently under FBI investigation for possible treason and collusion with a hostile foreign power). As such, the Democratic Party should resolve to filibuster EVERY SINGLE THING the Republicans do from here on out. Every nominee, every piece of legislation, every tiny change to the budget. NOTHING PASSES without a filibuster. NEVER FORGET THE STOLEN SEAT OF SUPREME COURT JUSTICE MERRICK GARLAND
04-07-2017 , 02:33 PM
Democrats should be looking into any and every possible way to delay the swearing-in of Gorsuch. There is no constitutional mechanism to remove him from the bench after we find out the full extent of Trump's crimes with Russia. This is slingshotting us into a Constitutional Crisis from which there will be no extrication (an illegitimate sitting Supreme Court Justice that cannot be removed). Democrats must call this out for exactly what it is, a violent attack on the foundations of our democracy by the Republican party.
04-07-2017 , 02:35 PM
no one cares einbert, its over
04-07-2017 , 02:39 PM
We will never forget this terroristic attack on our democracy. We must never forget it, as we continue to fight these extreme fascists that call themselves Republicans. It is a great reminder of exactly what they are all about. Power and exercising their will over the will of the majority.
04-07-2017 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
no one cares einbert, its over
Except for the filibusters.
04-07-2017 , 02:48 PM
The US is ****ed and the best you've got is to hope it's temporary and to fix the flaws that allowed this to happen.
04-07-2017 , 02:48 PM
This isn't democracy. This is Redemption 2.0


https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/850379896530632704

https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/850381479125430272

https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/850383372190961664
04-07-2017 , 02:56 PM
To be fair, Civil Rights were only supported for about 12 years after the Civil War, from 1865-The Compromise of 1877. We managed to support Civil Rights, at least partially (discounting mass incarceration and police brutality) for a solid 48 years this time. Counting from the 1965 Voting Rights Act to its dismantling in 2013 in Shelby County v. Holder

Compromise of 1877
http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h396.html

Voting Rights Act
http://www.history.com/topics/black-...ing-rights-act

Shelby County v. Holder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelby_County_v._Holder
04-07-2017 , 02:57 PM
Next time Dems control all three branches I expect to see a push for court packing. The justification will be that this seat was stolen (it was), nominated by an illegitimate (and by the time I'm discussing, likely politically-radioactive) president, and confirmed by an exercise of raw power and an undermining of Senate norms (which personally idc about at all but will certainly be used as fuel in this argument). Obviously the dynamics of how this all plays out will depend on the rest of Trump's term and the balance of the court, but I think the basic argument will be "Rs ****ed us and the public to win control of the SCOTUS, now that we're in power we're going to take back what never should have been theirs in the first place." Note that I'm talking here about a different breed of Democrats than what we have now (I said "in power" so yeah ldo).

Maybe I spend too much time imagining the millenial-led utopia that will one day come, but I don't think you can overstate the disgust among politically active young people (who are vastly more informed about the reality of politics than the FNC-addicted useless Boomers) that Republicans obstructed Obama for a year to allow Donald ****ing Trump to nominate someone to the Supreme Court. There will come a day where the Millenials are in charge. I'm not generally a vengeful person but I hope Mitch McConnell's cryogenically sealed head is made to watch as they nominate and confirm four UC Berkeley lesbian professors in his name.

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04-07-2017 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Democrats should be looking into any and every possible way to delay the swearing-in of Gorsuch. There is no constitutional mechanism to remove him from the bench after we find out the full extent of Trump's crimes with Russia. This is slingshotting us into a Constitutional Crisis from which there will be no extrication (an illegitimate sitting Supreme Court Justice that cannot be removed). Democrats must call this out for exactly what it is, a violent attack on the foundations of our democracy by the Republican party.
he can be impeached like any other federal judge or justice.

the second part of the constitution you have overlooked is the part that says it takes both the President and the US senate (advise and consent) to complete an appointment. Garland failed to get both. Since Senators are democratically elected their choice to deny consent is a democratic act.
04-07-2017 , 03:02 PM



https://twitter.com/AndrewBeatty/sta...17125038673921
04-07-2017 , 03:03 PM
Make no mistake about it, this seat was stolen. It was stolen while Anton Scalia's dead body was still warm. We'll never ever forget this poconoder and none of your stupid Conway-style rhetoric can deflect from that.
04-07-2017 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by poconoder
he can be impeached like any other federal judge or justice.

the second part of the constitution you have overlooked is the part that says it takes both the President and the US senate (advise and consent) to complete an appointment. Garland failed to get both. Since Senators are democratically elected their choice to deny consent is a democratic act.
While eating my democratic act last night for dinner I was watching the news on my new 50" constitution I just bought at the local advise. The consent who sold it to me was really senator.
04-07-2017 , 03:09 PM
I recently read in a TIME magazine article that McConnell privately told Garland he would vote for him once Hillary was elected. Whoa Betty elections have consequences.
04-07-2017 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by poconoder
I recently read in a TIME magazine article that McConnell privately told Garland he would vote for him once Hillary was elected. Whoa Betty elections have consequences*.
*Offer not valid for 2012 elections.
04-07-2017 , 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by poconoder
I recently read in a TIME magazine article that McConnell privately told Garland he would vote for him once Hillary was elected. Whoa Betty elections have consequences.
it's called lying dude, he was lying. He does that. They were never appointing a supreme court judge under hillary ever. Many R's came right out and said it.

god is MSM really anointing trump for dropping bombs b/c of caring about people? Jesus we're ****ed up, nothing says I care like bomb dropping.
04-07-2017 , 03:35 PM
68-31
63-37

votes on the 2 Obama nominees including Republican votes
04-07-2017 , 03:47 PM
In other news, Bernie Sanders has apparently hijacked Mike Cernovich's account.



https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/850427285140144129
04-07-2017 , 03:54 PM
anyone know if McCain explained the logic of him being 100% against removing the fillibuster and then voting to remove the fillibuster? Team playa?
04-07-2017 , 03:56 PM
The same logic behind this:
John McCain: Republicans will block “any Supreme Court nominee” of Hillary Clinton
http://www.salon.com/2016/10/17/john...VMpfJw.twitter
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Sen. John McCain is sure that if Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton wins, the Senate will continue to be an obstructionist mess.

In a Monday interview, the senator from Arizona said that Republican nominee Donald Trump is not necessarily a better candidate than Hillary Clinton when it comes to appointing Supreme Court justices, promising that Republicans wouldn’t approve any Clinton nominee to the Supreme Court.

“I promise you that we will be united against any Supreme Court nominee that Hillary Clinton, if she were president, would put up,” McCain told WPHT in Philadelphia. “I promise you. This is where we need the majority.”

      
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