The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. - Page 5135 - Politics and Economics

It's white knuckle time for NASA at Mars tomorrow. If InSight lands successfully, Trump will grab the credit. If not, he blames... immigrants? Mueller? Dems? I'll go with Obama.

As if Trump mentions this no matter what. He knows nothing about science. I’d snap bet my net worth he couldn’t name all the planets.

11-25-2018 , 11:56 PM

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zOMG a couple people might have tossed rocks! SHOOT THEM

11-25-2018 , 11:58 PM

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uDevil

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Thanks to Clovis, I'm free of the prejudice that Canadians are friendly, happy people. Ofc Trump tweets if InSight lands ok. Space Force!

11-25-2018 , 11:59 PM

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Zikzak,

Maybe you can help here.

NR, MA is that North Reading? 97% white. Is that like the white flight suburb of Boston for racists who left Southie?

11-26-2018 , 12:02 AM

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SuperUberBob

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If InSight lands, Trump probably talks about weaponizing space to protect us from MS-13.

11-26-2018 , 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by microbet

Zikzak,

Maybe you can help here.

NR, MA is that North Reading? 97% white. Is that like the white flight suburb of Boston for racists who left Southie?

I have no idea. I live in a part of the state that is completely ignored by and is largely oblivious to the culture that most people think of as Massachusetts.

11-26-2018 , 12:15 AM

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hahaha micro so when pretty much the same thing happened in 2013, did anyone work themselves into a GENEVA CONVENTION lather? nope. why not?

11-26-2018 , 12:18 AM

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Guys we killed like half a million Iraqis. Gassing a few dozen kids isn’t moving the needle.

11-26-2018 , 12:18 AM

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hahaha micro so when pretty much the same thing happened in 2013, did anyone work themselves into a GENEVA CONVENTION lather? nope. why not?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

11-26-2018 , 12:20 AM

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I have no idea. I live in a part of the state that is completely ignored by and is largely oblivious to the culture that most people think of as Massachusetts.

This calls for a joke about some particular neighborhood of Boston, but I don't know Boston.

11-26-2018 , 12:21 AM

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hahaha micro so when pretty much the same thing happened in 2013, did anyone work themselves into a GENEVA CONVENTION lather? nope. why not?

Because they/we were lame. (not everyone was, but a lot of people had their heads buried in the sand)

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11-26-2018 , 12:25 AM

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zOMG a couple people might have tossed rocks! SHOOT THEM

I didnt say that, but whatever. my point is: anyone (including US congresspeople lol) whose reaction entails fainting over geneva-flouting chemical weapons! is hysterically disingenuous

11-26-2018 , 12:27 AM

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This calls for a joke about some particular neighborhood of Boston, but I don't know Boston.

Neither do I. I know NYC better than I know Boston.

Heck, I might know LA better than I know Boston.

11-26-2018 , 12:34 AM

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to be clear I’m talking about a rush at the same entry point 5 years ago and what the border patrol did in response to it

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...233397971.html

thats not whataboutism. im not trying to rationalize or explain away bad behavior. im arguing for consistency in reaction to the incident. it wasnt a racist chemical attack then right? so lets not pretend it is now.

11-26-2018 , 12:39 AM

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Sure sounds like a racist chemical attack to me. The argument that border patrol has always been jackbooted thug *******s may not be the winning one you seem to think it is.

11-26-2018 , 12:39 AM

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I'm sure that 35 minute roundtable on criminal justice reform is going to accomplish a lot.

11-26-2018 , 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by chymechowder

I didnt say that, but whatever. my point is: anyone (including US congresspeople lol) whose reaction entails fainting over geneva-flouting chemical weapons! is hysterically disingenuous

Trump ginned up interest in the caravan. It worked. There are a lot of things that I would have been angry about if I had known/been paying attention going back to the beginning of time, but like, this is now and I am paying attention. Next time I DON'T care about it call me the **** out but until then, stfu.

And as for you--link some of your posts about Repubs being upset about something they were not upset about previously. How about this one...Mitch lamenting democrat obstruction....where is your post on that? You are being hysterically disingenuous pretending you care about consistency.

11-26-2018 , 12:51 AM

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"Oh, that's Obama's Border Patrol Agency. I fully support whatever they do. I'm a Democrat!" Is not something that ever happened. Some people paid less attention to the crap that Border Patrol did during O's presidency. That did happen.

11-26-2018 , 01:03 AM

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Sure sounds like a racist chemical attack to me. The argument that border patrol has always been jackbooted thug *******s may not be the winning one you seem to think it is.

yeah but using non-lethal repellents isnt jack-booted thuggery! I mean, if your point is that the border patrol should LITERALLY start tearing down the wall and just stand aside, allowing anyone and everyone to come in, ok.

that’s fine but it’s also not really applicable to the question of what border patrol CAN/SHOULD do in situations like the tijuana one today and in 2013

for a real example of jack booted thuggery, see the east germans whom you bizarrely lauded earlier. (were there tens of thousands of ppl trying to sneak INTO east germany?)

11-26-2018 , 01:05 AM

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They should tear down the wall. Or at least quit their jobs and go home.

11-26-2018 , 01:06 AM

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I lauded the East Germans who came to realize that their job was stupid and just stopped doing it.

11-26-2018 , 01:30 AM

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They should tear down the wall. Or at least quit their jobs and go home.

I cant tell if youre serious or not. (You live in california, right?...have YOU tried to tear down the wall from the US side?)

11-26-2018 , 01:33 AM

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Dominic

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We are now firing tear gas at desperate mothers, toddlers, and babies.

11-26-2018 , 01:35 AM

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chymechowder

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I lauded the East Germans who came to realize that their job was stupid and just stopped doing it.

I think you’re perhaps crediting them with more enlightenment than they deserve, but either way it’s good to know you werent lauding the ones who gunned down citizens trying to escape

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