The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. - Page 4547 - Politics and Economics

In early 2017, Manigault Newman says she walked Michael Cohen, then Trump’s personal lawyer, into the Oval Office for a meeting with Trump — and saw the president chewing up a piece of paper while Cohen was leaving the office. Another White House official confirmed that Manigault Newman brought Cohen into the White House and was later rebuked for it. The two remain in contact, according to people familiar with the relationship.

“I saw him put a note in his mouth. Since Trump was ever the germaphobe, I was shocked he appeared to be chewing and swallowing the paper. It must have been something very, very sensitive,” she writes in her book.

08-10-2018 , 02:44 PM

#113653

Money2Burn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigt2k4

I am in the opposite boat. I live in a heavily multicultural area, and I don't want a bunch of gun toting, obnoxious, white American immigrants crossing the border into my town

I don’t blame you

08-10-2018 , 02:54 PM

#113654

aflametotheground

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,851

Open borders first, details later.

Number of Potential Migrants Worldwide Tops 700 Million

U.S. Still Top Desired Destination for Potential Migrants

The U.S. continues to be the most desired destination country for potential migrants, as it has since Gallup started tracking these patterns a decade ago. One in five potential migrants (21%) -- or about 147 million adults worldwide -- name the U.S. as their desired future residence

https://news.gallup.com/poll/211883/...00%2520Million

08-10-2018 , 02:54 PM

#113655

prana

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Is there any citation regarding the 100s of millions that would come here to live in tents or is that just a big scary number?

Also wrt remittances:

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The Irish Emigrant Society expanded its activities to found the Emigrant Industrial Savings Bank in 1850. This greatly helped the Irish to send home remittances thus leading to “chain emigration”. Between 1845 and 1854 when the famine was at its worst, $19 million dollars was sent back to Ireland much of it in the form of prepaid tickets so that families could be reunited. Thus chain migration began as inhabitants of Ireland followed their brothers, sisters, parents, aunts and uncles to the US. Historian Arnold Schrier has calculated that the Irish in America sent over $260 million back to Ireland during the latter part of the nineteenth century. Dennis Clarke called this phenomenon “the greatest transatlantic philanthropy of the nineteenth century”. In 1864 one writer confidently asserted that not more than 5% of the emigrants from Mayo paid their own passage (Mayo Constitution, March 15th 1864). Remittances were used to pay rent and shop bills. As late as the turn of the century a visitor to Achill Island observed that the island supported a population far larger than could be supported by the meagre farming and spasmodic fishing in the area. This was due to American money sent home by absent sons and daughters. (R.L Praeger, The Way that I went)

08-10-2018 , 03:03 PM

#113656

ScreaminAsian

For President

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https://twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/st...89854406225920

08-10-2018 , 03:12 PM

#113657

ScreaminAsian

For President

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08-10-2018 , 03:16 PM

#113658

mosdef

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

https://twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/st...89854406225920

Jesus, what a lunatic. Toast is delicious!

08-10-2018 , 03:19 PM

#113659

BrookTrout

old hand

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Must have tapes, or she'd be called low-iq by now.

08-10-2018 , 03:25 PM

#113660

Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrookTrout

Must have tapes, or she'd be called low-iq by now.

There was some generic WH statement on it calling it all lies earlier today, no specific allegations were mentioned afaik

08-10-2018 , 03:26 PM

#113661

wheatrich

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Trump's learning he can cripple turkey all over one dude they've got he wants out of their jails or whatever, cool cool.

I'm sure glad we don't have a big operation using a military base there or anything. I hope we're not still stashing nukes there.

08-10-2018 , 03:26 PM

#113662

Kafja

adept

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 941

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

https://twitter.com/KT_So_It_Goes/st...89854406225920

lol, took me a minute before i realised i was getting gorilla channel-ed.

08-10-2018 , 03:27 PM

#113663

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

There was some generic WH statement on it calling it all lies earlier today, no specific allegations were mentioned afaik

Who are you going to believe, Donald Trump or literally everyone else?

Of course it's gonna be Trump with at least 35% of the country.

08-10-2018 , 03:37 PM

#113664

uDevil

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Last Rasmussen had Trump at 46% approval.

I've had beans on toast many a time. Not as good as PB of course, because with PB you can add honey or jam, but not a sign of the apocalypse.

08-10-2018 , 03:44 PM

#113665

All-In Flynn

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

I'm willing to bet this is 100% intentional.

"Significantly dumber than words can convey" is both more parsimonious and more congruent with the available facts than even "Playing checkers", never mind this kind of n-dimensional chess stuff. I can politely look the other way about that to a small extent with Trump himself, because he has at least managed to become President, but the kids? Come on. It's not even so much that he RTed it thinking it was real. He didn't care and he still doesn't.

They are idiots frolicking in a world of unmerited opulence. Never kid yourself otherwise - the situation lacks even the Sadean justice of their being subtle, cunning operators who've cleverly tricked and manipulated their way to obscene wealth. They are stone ****ing dumbasses who've hooted and chest-thumped their way to obscene wealth.

08-10-2018 , 03:50 PM

#113666

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

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Right and as we're all headed to the gas chambers we can console ourselves with "BUT THEY WERE JUST MASHING BUTTONS" - as Stephen Miller watches on with a wry smile.

08-10-2018 , 03:55 PM

#113667

cuserounder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

I think you are out of your mind if you think the US could absorb 130 million people in the course of a few years.

I think you are out of your mind if you think that most of this forum is for immediately 100% open borders. I am for significantly expanding legal immigration.

I would imagine that even most of those who favor open borders would not want to totally open them overnight, but rather ramp up the amount of legal immigration over a 3-5 year period until they were open.

08-10-2018 , 03:56 PM

#113668

All-In Flynn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Right and as we're all headed to the gas chambers we can console ourselves with "BUT THEY WERE JUST MASHING BUTTONS" - as Stephen Miller watches on with a wry smile.

You find the prospect consoling? If I thought they were a tribe of Machiavellian connivers, I'd be way less outraged.

08-10-2018 , 04:37 PM

#113669

champstark

aka starkwired

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 14,838

Now to really set all the moderates' hair on fire:

Immigrants who pay taxes should be able to vote, regardless of citizenship status.

08-10-2018 , 04:40 PM

#113670

well named

poorly undertitled

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Immigrants who pay taxes should be able to vote, regardless of citizenship status.

I would probably keep it such that voting required citizenship, I would just make it much easier to become a citizen, such that I would expect the overwhelming majority of long-term residents to become citizens.

08-10-2018 , 04:40 PM

#113671

TrollyWantACracker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

Now to really set all the moderates' hair on fire:

Immigrants who pay taxes should be able to vote, regardless of citizenship status.

This should be the moderate position. What would the argument against it even be?

I say let the undocumented vote as well. Has the side effect of eliminating those conservative voter fraud fears.

08-10-2018 , 04:43 PM

#113672

goofyballer

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If anyone's curious where the modern Republican Party is at: Florida Gov. candidate Rick DeSantis attacks his primary opponent for being insufficiently loyal to Trump over the Access Hollywood tape

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In 2016, Florida Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam endorsed Donald Trump for president. But he also joined many fellow Republicans in denouncing Trump’s most controversial comments. When Trump attacked the parents of a fallen war hero, the Khans, Putnam called the comments “dishonorable.” Putnam added: “He keeps running his mouth about the most ridiculous things and attacking a family who has sacrificed so much for the freedoms we all enjoy.”

A couple of months later when The Washington Post first reported on the “Access Hollywood” tape in which Trump mused about grabbing women “by the pussy,” Putnam bucked again. “Even by the base standards of this campaign season, his comments were vile and obscene,” Putnam said, echoing pretty much every major Republican, including Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.).

Fast forward to 2018: boy, would he regret that!

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At a debate Wednesday, his Trump-backed gubernatorial primary opponent, Rep. Ron DeSantis, threw these comments back in Putnam’s face (without, of course, talking about what episodes they emanated from).

“This is a guy who, when we were trying to beat Hillary Clinton, said Trump was vile, obscene, dishonorable,” DeSantis said. “Never showed up at a single rally. He could have put his picture on a milk carton; no one knew where he was during the campaign.”

08-10-2018 , 05:11 PM

#113673

markksman

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They stealin’ food from ma baybies mouth!

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Food Stamps Eligibility for Immigrants in Texas

Petitioners may be able to qualify for food stamps benefits in TX even if they are not a United States citizen. If an applicant is an immigrant, he or she may still qualify if they meet all eligibility requirements in addition to the following:

Have children under the age of 18
Are already receiving disability or any financial based government assistance
Have been living in the United States for no less than 5 years

Last edited by markksman; 08-10-2018 at 05:22 PM.

08-10-2018 , 05:16 PM

#113674

FlyWf

It's the other way

Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 58,097

Quote:

Originally Posted by aflametotheground

Just a reminder that these people are always full of **** whenever they aren't being explicitly racist, look at how ****ing quickly this Intellectual Dark Web libertarian dude completely abandons the wisdom of crowds. Free market in labor? No way. People will immigrate here to be impoverished in tent cities!