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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

10-15-2017 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
Ireland has a relatively painless critical skills work permit programme, depending on your demonstrable qualifications/experience. Your dependents can come too, and your spouse or partner can apply for a non-qualification-dependent work permit after you secure yours. After two years, you can apply for functionally permanent resident status, allowing you to work with no restrictions. Three years after that, you can apply to become an Irish citizen (you are not required to renounce your birth citizenship).
Plus they got a gang of Percocet.
10-15-2017 , 08:25 PM
microbet, you could consider submitting an Expression of Interest for a Business Innovation and Investment (Provisional) visa (subclass 188) visa to Australia. The way this works is that you submit this expression of interest to one or more state governments and if a government is interested (because their state needs more of that sort of business), they can invite you to submit a formal application to start a business in Australia. You have to have documented history of running a business elsewhere, of course. I have no clue whether your line of work is something any state is short of, but if you're interested you could make some informal inquiries to see whether it's a shot prior to sinking time into an expression of interest. The application process is LONG (around 18 months start to finish).

The more usual way to obtain a working visa in Australia is the Temporary Work (Skilled) visa (subclass 457), which requires an employer to sponsor you to come to Australia. Having an occupation on the list of eligible occupations is not essential to get this visa, but it does help a hell of a lot and it is essential if you want to transition later to seeking permanency.

Also, if your concern is avoiding more wars started by the US, then obviously Australia will also be involved in those wars.
10-15-2017 , 08:27 PM
It's actually pretty hard to move here.
10-15-2017 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
You guys are much worse than politicians.
Just constant complaining from this guy, who voted for Donald ****ing Trump. Give me a break.
10-15-2017 , 08:34 PM
Too much paperwork. I'll just be illegal.
10-15-2017 , 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
Plus they got a gang of Percocet.
We call it Nurofen Plus (or Feminax for when Aunt Flo is visiting) and we are very happy with that, thank you very much.
10-15-2017 , 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
I just don’t get why you all think I’ll be unable to admit “I was wrong”.

Like I’m some sort of a child or something.

I took a ride on the Trump Train, if I don’t like the destination I’ll get off at the next stop at the corner of 2018 and Democracy and take the Blue Train back.


You are already to the point where you are wrong, and you still phrase it as a hypothetical and put air quotes around it.
10-15-2017 , 09:19 PM
Percocet, huh, guess I know what that guy says in that song now.
10-15-2017 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
It's actually pretty hard to move here.
You don't want to tell them you might stay. That's for sure.
10-15-2017 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
Because it's all of the above.



But like I've said before:



If my hometown doesn't improve, if my taxes aren't lowered, if he plunges our country into another war, then he we won't get my vote for re-election.


It’s irrelevant if you vote for trump again. You voted for trump.


Shame
10-15-2017 , 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Too much paperwork. I'll just be illegal.
You're too old to be drafted, aren't you?

Anyways, the obvious answer is MX.
10-15-2017 , 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
If Trump plunges us into a new full-scale war it's going to be hard for me to stay in this country.
I left before he got inaugurated.

The ship will sink without me on it.
10-15-2017 , 10:03 PM
I started proof of Canadian citizenship for my kids before the inauguration. There were two other families doing the same while I was at the consulate.
10-15-2017 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
Because it's all of the above.

But like I've said before:

If my hometown doesn't improve, if my taxes aren't lowered, if he plunges our country into another war, then he we won't get my vote for re-election.
Why did you choose to ignore the following things when voting:

Clearly incapable of foreign relations as doesn’t have a clue about diplomacy.

Financially incompetent. Has no understanding of government tax collection, tax rates and budgets.

Clearly did not understand ANY issue related to Healthcare.

Demonstrated time and time again that he was both a misogynist and racist.

And to be honest that is just a starter list that was known by anyone who paid any attention at all.

So I ask you to explain how you managed to decide none of these problems alone or combed were enough to not vote for him. It is great that you might be having misgivings now. However it still doesn’t say much for you that you will feel validated in your vote if you get a mediocre tax cut.

Before the election it literally made no difference who ran against Trump. Trump’s history and well known short comings made it impossible to vote for him with a clear conscious. In fact he was so bad that anything than actively working to defeat him was a failure.
10-15-2017 , 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
I left before he got inaugurated.

The ship will sink without me on it.
You are still going to vote absentee tho, right?
10-15-2017 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Why did you choose to ignore the following things when voting:





Clearly incapable of foreign relations as doesn’t have a clue about diplomacy.





Financially incompetent. Has no understanding of government tax collection, tax rates and budgets.





Clearly did not understand ANY issue related to Healthcare.





Demonstrated time and time again that he was both a misogynist and racist.





And to be honest that is just a starter list that was known by anyone who paid any attention at all.
Tax cuts brah.
10-15-2017 , 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Shame Trolly !!!1!
You're too old to be drafted, aren't you?

Anyways, the obvious answer is MX.
Yeah, I'm way too old and my kids are girls.

San Cristobal de las Casas, Chiapas, Mexico might be alright.
10-15-2017 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Why did you choose to ignore the following things when voting:

Clearly incapable of foreign relations as doesn’t have a clue about diplomacy.

Financially incompetent. Has no understanding of government tax collection, tax rates and budgets.

Clearly did not understand ANY issue related to Healthcare.

Demonstrated time and time again that he was both a misogynist and racist.

And to be honest that is just a starter list that was known by anyone who paid any attention at all.
It's because he only cares about himself. It's hard to begrudge anyone for that. You got one life to live. Live it how the **** you want and not for people who are going to call you out because they are upset with the decisions you made for yourself.

Last edited by .isolated; 10-15-2017 at 10:51 PM. Reason: yeah, yeah, others are impacted. get out with strawmen
10-15-2017 , 10:52 PM
Uh, it's not hard to begrudge someone for caring only about themselves.
10-15-2017 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
It's because he only cares about himself. It's hard to begrudge anyone for that.
I can begrudge pretty easily for that.
10-15-2017 , 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999


And here ya go.

Trump won those states because there are people who voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 voted for TRUMP in 2016.
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Originally Posted by awval999
Those people, in rural Ohio and Wisconsin and Michigan.... aren't Republican.

They voted for Trump. In spite of his red GOP "R" next to his name.
Mitt Romney votes in Wisconsin in 2012: 1,407,966
Donald Trump votes in Wisconsin in 2016: 1,405,284

lol awfal
10-15-2017 , 11:39 PM
Yeah awval, you didn't read your source very carefully. The title wrongly claims it is counties where Trump "increased the Republican vote", but if you look at the scale, it's actually a map of where the Republican vote SHARE increased. This can mean decreased Democratic turnout just as easily as increased Republican turnout. Also, these geographical maps are in general misleading, because some of those counties are low population.
10-15-2017 , 11:48 PM
There's a piece on Obama -> Trump voters here (it's Rasmussen, but it cites other sources). Figuring out how many there were is complicated by the fact that people lie about voting for Obama (58% claim to have voted for him where 51% actually did) but it appears that it was a factor.

According to studies by Priorities USA, a Democratic Super PAC, 30% of Obama -> Trump voters said that their vote was more against Clinton than for Trump.
10-15-2017 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
There will probably be a lot of construction work available in South Korea, but I'm not sure they'll be too friendly to Americans. I'll have to pass as Canadian.
The UK (unless we have somehow elected a Corbyn style government by then), will no doubt be at trump's side playing little boy soldiers. You have higher hopes for Canada?
10-15-2017 , 11:53 PM
also known as the russian votes

      
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