He pardoned that ******* from AZ and other than "deep concerns" not one person in the GOP gave a flying f#ck.

Because a few republicans would be "concerned"?

It's going to be so tilting when the Trumpkins say, "Is he in jail? Then I guess he's innocent, isn't he?"

or... "The President of the United States of America says he's innocent. So he's innocent."

Good luck trying to explain that a pardon acknowledges guilt, or asking if someone Obama (Kenyan Muslim Terrorist ISIS traitor illegitimate president) or Clinton (he got impeached so LOL of COURSE he doesn't count) pardoned is innocent.

Fixed your post.

If anything pardoning a traitor will continue to lower his popularity and have a big impact on the 2018 elections. Which are really what matters

The **** Sheriff from AZ is his people. Trumpkins love that guy. No one loves Manafort.

Trumpkins are going to love anything Trump does.

Something that made me sick today that shows how people think about this. Someone said: "Trump >>>>>>> Repubs > Dems." Trumpkins don't care about anything but Trump and their supposed winning and don't think he does anything wrong. I guess my point is he won't lose any steam over this Manafort garbage.

I think you're confusing his extremist fan base with his entire support group. Sure there are lots of Trump supporters like that, but not the like 60+ million his 35% approval suggests. I'm willing to bet some of those 60 million who still support Trump would not be ok with him pardoning a convicted traitor, even if they were ok with him pardoning a racist.

It won't be all, or even most. But we don't need him to lose all his supporters. Just enough for the Dems to win 2018 big or for the republican GOP to turn on him.

Every little bit that lowers his supporters helps.

just bc they disapprove of trump doesnt mean they will vote for a dem.

Seems to me that Trump and company were beholden to Russia long before Manafort arrived on the scene. Manafort just brought some much-needed expertise to the table. I'm not convinced Manafort will fall on his sword. He could flip, and then the issue won't be as much about Trump pardoning Manafort as it will be about Trump pardoning Trump.

Every. Single. One. of these clowns will fall in line to vote for the next huckster the Republicans trot out. We absolutely cannot count on "moderate" Republicans learning their lesson from the Trump disaster.

Well of course, who didn't...

Based on some of the things coming from Trump's legal team it looks like their strategy is to throw Manafort to the wolves. If that's the case then it's 100% that he's going to flip. He isn't looking at 3-5 in some nice min security country club, espionage or treason charges will carry life sentences in max security joints. Plus Mueller is clearly got a bunch of state charges locked and loaded against him through the NY AG to end run any potential for pardons from Trump.

His goose is cooked.

Yep. My first thought looking at this map is that this would be long term electoral suicide if they manage to pass this turdburger. Then again we are talking about a part of the electorate that the GOP can count on to proudly vote against its own interest.

manafort is so ****ed

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The WH is throwing Manafort under the bus. He's going to sing like a canary. Things might actually be getting real.

i love it. especially later in the summer.

At this point what choice do they have? It's like the Chris Christie thing. Their only hope is that there's not enough out there to implicate the boss.

Because the one thing that's certain is that Trump ain't innocent.

You're forgetting that Obama and the dems will get blamed for it. And that's 100% sincere.

They're going to run against Hillary in 2020 even if she's dead. After this **** you to, well, everyone, they will absolutey blame the fallout on Obama. And it will work. We've seen this movie before.

Does Trump know Puerto Rico is part of the United States?

Yep, Obama is the new boogeyman they get to blame everything that's ever happened on. Once they got away with blaming him for a bill they overrode his veto on they knew they could use that **** any time.
It appears so:

Obviously. Even if the Democrats nominate Tim ****ing Ryan or whoever, they'll turn him into an effete limousine liberal socialist for owning a suit and a car and having golfed once or whatever. "But Donald Trump golfs every weekend?" you'll say. But Donald Trump is the kind of golfing rich bozo you would like to have a beer with. The real sin is Communist Tim Ryan proposed an enormous expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit, and he will NOT vote for the wall, so, sorry, Republicans gave it a lot of deep thought and while they have grave misgivings about Donald Trump, they are forced to save America from socialist Democrat scourges, maybe nominate John Kasich or Ted Cruz next time if you want to really give Republicans a Democrat candidate to consider.

I think the Republicans have figured out that the only people who will actually wake up and vote against them are the ones who are personally impacted... I don't mean losing insurance, I mean getting seriously ill without it. There's probably one degree of familial separation. Like, if your parent/spouse/sibling/child is personally impacted, you'll wake up... But if your cousin/aunt/uncle/nephew/niece/etc does you won't.

Even in that group, some are stupid enough to keep voting GOP, some will just not vote, some will vote third party, and some percentage that's probably less than 60% (maybe substantially) will actually vote for Democrats.

When you take GOP voters, eliminate anyone who will maintain benefits through their job, eliminate anyone wealthy enough to be okay either way, and eliminate the extreme racists... Then multiply what's left by the odds of having a serious illness within a certain timeframe, then apply the last filter of how they'll react...

I'd say they're thrilled to roll the dice on the electoral consequences versus the potential tax cuts for their mega-donors.

Oh, and I didn't even get into the phasing out process which will make it harder to hit them with the direct blame for totally cutting the funding until 2027, at which point, "OBUMMER DID IT!" will probably work.

these people are so ****ing scared to admit that dems are better for their lives overall, that they just stick their heads in the sand and continue voting gop and being angry at libs for making them do so. again, this is the party of personal responsibility.