The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. - Page 98 - Politics and Economics

Sobering thought: the immigration EO could be the third most appalling Trump news to break today! (Behind the NSC reshuffle and Trump maybe just maybe selling out US intel assets to Russia.)

There should be no surprise if it turns out Trump & Co. leaked the names.

01-28-2017 , 11:44 PM

#2427

master3004

Revisionist Historian

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 56,420

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigoldnit

Fox just posted this helpful advice for Republicans under Trump (http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...publicans.html)

Rule number 1: Don't help Democrats.

Lol. **** these guys.

OBSTRUCT EVERYTHING!

01-28-2017 , 11:44 PM

#2428

aoFrantic

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Chris Sacca is matching ACLU donations up to 50k if you tweet at him.

01-28-2017 , 11:44 PM

#2429

ScreaminAsian

For President

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 33,333

Quote:

Originally Posted by dopebeats

These ****s are going to jail. I think they got the link. This dropped on Cryptome today.

https://cryptome.org/2017/01/martin-031.pdf

Bet he got something to do with it.

just tell me what it means

01-28-2017 , 11:47 PM

#2430

Jbrochu

banned

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

just tell me what it means

Yeah I've been holding out clicking it as well. It's like deciding whether to save the last marshmallow or eat it now.

01-28-2017 , 11:47 PM

#2431

walkby

adept

Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 1,056

Canadian here. When you guys write things like "we're doomed" it's not just hyperbole is it? How bad do you guys think things are going get?

01-28-2017 , 11:47 PM

#2432

master3004

Revisionist Historian

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 56,420

For those who have been writing and calling their congresscritters, there is one other thing we can do.

Contact the press. ABC, NBC, cbs, fox. Inform them that until they start issuing real challenges as journalists to the administration that we will boycott their programing. Hit them in their wallet. Make them ask real questions. Do not let the press get away with having these people duck questions.

01-28-2017 , 11:48 PM

#2433

Jbrochu

banned

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Quote:

Originally Posted by truefish

Weak

RIP

01-28-2017 , 11:49 PM

#2434

ScreaminAsian

For President

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 33,333

Quote:

Originally Posted by truefish

Maybe, but the guy wanting to punch nazis won't.

thanks for banning this nazi btw

01-28-2017 , 11:49 PM

#2435

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Breitbart handling this story with typical objectivity

Chilling to think their executive chair is now a principal member of the national security council.

01-28-2017 , 11:50 PM

#2436

ScreaminAsian

For President

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 33,333

Quote:

Originally Posted by walkby

Canadian here. When you guys write things like "we're doomed" it's not just hyperbole is it? How bad do you guys think things are going get?

150 seconds to midnight (global nuclear holocaust) according to an international panel of nuclear scientists

01-28-2017 , 11:51 PM

#2437

zikzak

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Quote:

Originally Posted by walkby

Canadian here. When you guys write things like "we're doomed" it's not just hyperbole is it? How bad do you guys think things are going get?

Dogs and cats living together.

On the low end of the scale we have the national embarrassment of president Trump, who may be forcibly removed from office before he does serious damage. On the high end we have thermonuclear annihilation. It's a big range.

01-28-2017 , 11:52 PM

#2438

Jbrochu

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Quote:

Originally Posted by walkby

Canadian here. When you guys write things like "we're doomed" it's not just hyperbole is it? How bad do you guys think things are going get?

Bad enough that I've been legitimately considering if I should put my home for sale, and in the meantime trying to figure out if I can legally get my family into Canada. Was hoping my Grandfather having been born in Quebec would help, but apparently that doesn't matter.

01-28-2017 , 11:54 PM

#2439

Victor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by walkby

Canadian here. When you guys write things like "we're doomed" it's not just hyperbole is it? How bad do you guys think things are going get?

well democracy is dead. so this country is now authoritarian. and it will only get worse. so, I figure in about 10 years we will be close to stalinist soviet union.

and with all the trade wars and other bs, the economy is clearly gonna fall apart.

so pretty bad. but it will be ok for a few years.

01-28-2017 , 11:54 PM

#2440

Paul D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by walkby

Canadian here. When you guys write things like "we're doomed" it's not just hyperbole is it? How bad do you guys think things are going get?

I don't think we are doomed. I'm fairly sure you are about to witness the first President of US in our lifetimes get evicted or a full fledged culture war erupt and business leaders affected by it will speak up.

01-28-2017 , 11:55 PM

#2441

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Breitbart handling this story with typical objectivity

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

Chilling to think their executive chair is now a principal member of the national security council.

Politico 3/10/16 - Trump defends comments on Tiananmen Square, Putin

Donald Trump still thinks the Chinese government showed “strength” when they killed more than 200 people to crush pro-democracy student protests in 1989 — but he's not saying he agrees with what the regime did.

“That doesn’t mean I was endorsing that,” Trump said. “I said that was a strong, powerful government. They kept down the riot, it was a horrible thing.”

Trump told Playboy in a 1990 interview: "When the students poured into Tiananmen Square, the Chinese government almost blew it. Then they were vicious, they were horrible, but they put it down with strength. That shows you the power of strength. Our country is right now perceived as weak."

01-28-2017 , 11:56 PM

#2442

Bullycider

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https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/...waiver-program

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Release Date: February 18, 2016
For Immediate Release
DHS Press Office
Contact: 202-282-8010

WASHINGTON—The Department of Homeland Security today announced that it is continuing its implementation of the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act of 2015 with the addition of Libya, Somalia, and Yemen as three countries of concern, limiting Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals who have traveled to these countries.

Quote:

Last month, the United States began implementing changes under the Act. The three additional countries designated today join Iran, Iraq, Sudan and Syria as countries subject to restrictions for Visa Waiver Program travel for certain individuals. Under the new law, the Secretary of Homeland Security may waive these restrictions if he determines that such a waiver is in the law enforcement or national security interests of the United States. Such waivers will be granted only on a case-by-case basis. As a general matter, categories of travelers who may be eligible for a waiver include individuals who traveled to these countries on behalf of international organizations, regional organizations, and sub-national governments on official duty; on behalf of a humanitarian NGO on official duty; or as a journalist for reporting purposes

if you were wondering why those nations were singled out, please note the date of the press release.

01-28-2017 , 11:56 PM

#2443

Oroku$aki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by walkby

Canadian here. When you guys write things like "we're doomed" it's not just hyperbole is it? How bad do you guys think things are going get?

01-28-2017 , 11:56 PM

#2444

Victor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by master3004

wow this is a novel idea. it may even be worthwhile. I really dunno.

I do know that calling congressppl and other elected officials does absolutely eff all so its a complete waste of time and just lol to even think about.

but ya, complaining to the press is def something new.

but really, until guns and revolution start getting discussed, I dont have much hopel

01-28-2017 , 11:57 PM

#2445

FlyWf

It's the other way

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The big flaw in the Constitution has always been the executive enforcing judicial orders, so if the courts tell the executive to stop doing something there's nobody above them if they just ignore that order.

So here we go. We're about to find out how bad it'll get.

01-29-2017 , 12:00 AM

#2446

Han YOLO

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Victor

but her emails

01-29-2017 , 12:02 AM

#2447

Banned4lyfe

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Zach Braff (JD-Scrubs) donating a cool 25k to ACLU

01-29-2017 , 12:07 AM

#2448

walkby

adept

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Well, ****. I'm rooting for you guys.

01-29-2017 , 12:07 AM

#2449

ScreaminAsian

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lol this guy on CNNi is saying obama argued to the supreme court that courts shouldn't second guess presidents actions on immigration and national security. thanks obama

01-29-2017 , 12:15 AM

#2450

MediocrePlayer2.0

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I just don't understand what the strategy here is other than mashing buttons.

With all the strongman economic populist crap the guy had all of the anecdotes about specific plant closures which is easy to sell against the abstract of free trade being better for the overall population in the long run.

This ******ed ban is going to put all the anecdotes against him .... the stories of honest, hardworking people who are getting ****ed over for no reason are going to be rolling out day after day.

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