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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

02-27-2018 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
My first thought is that Trump is probably complaining about a political witch hunt directed at him. But I could equally believe that he is attempting to command that a literal witch hunt take place.
[apologies for my spam today, I rarely drink but I’m still intoxicated from last night]

“IF THEY DONT FLOAT THEY CAN VOTE!”
02-27-2018 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Your Supreme Court



https://twitter.com/NPR/status/968508235966828551

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What was the rationale that Dems gave for not filibustering gorsuck? I don't remember but LOL

Nm I forgot the GOP removed the filibuster
02-27-2018 , 12:26 PM
Paul Ryan: "We have to ask ourselves about the kind of culture that's creating these kinds of people". Like the gun culture perhaps? No. Not that culture. Another culture. Like the violent video game culture? Oh yeah. That must be the problem. I guess he'll investigate ways of addressing that. These people are incorrigible. Most of them would ban violent video games before banning any type of gun.
02-27-2018 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by danspartan
He is formally announcing he is running in 2020 and is naming a campaign manager. (I believe technically he has already announced which makes his rallies semi-legit).
He just named that Brad Pascale (or however you spell it) social media and IT guy to be his 2020 campaign manager. So the guy who basically won 2016 for him will run the next campaign if he's not in jail for coordinating geotargeting data with the Russians.
02-27-2018 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
The Iraq war is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths. Anything Trump has done so far pales in comparison.
Deaths of people in war is not the be all and end all of a bad president. Otherwise Lincoln would be one of the worst of all time.

I think kicking out 800,000 quasi Americans who have known no other country is an extremly ****ed up thing to do and is just one of scores of horrible things Trump has been actively working on.

If your only criteria for a bad president is how many people from other countries die, enjoy your myopic and basic list. However there are all sorts of things being done that are going to devestste millions of people all over the world because of Trump.

I know this argument comes up every few months, but it has easily been six plus months since Trump ran away with the crown for worst American President in US history. We can bemoan foreign policy of other presidents getting people killed but the ultimate world wide body count as a result as Trump’s complete failure in foreign policy will reverberate for decades and decades.
02-27-2018 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
He just named that Brad Pascale (or however you spell it) social media and IT guy to be his 2020 campaign manager. So the guy who basically won 2016 for him will run the next campaign if he's not in jail for coordinating geotargeting data with the Russians.
Brad probably has the hard drive bleach, just in case.
02-27-2018 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
Paul Ryan: "We have to ask ourselves about the kind of culture that's creating these kinds of people". Like the gun culture perhaps? No. Not that culture. Another culture. Like the violent video game culture? Oh yeah. That must be the problem. I guess he'll investigate ways of addressing that. These people are incorrigible. Most of them would ban violent video games before banning any type of gun.
My lulz would be bigly if they banned violent video games. The utoobz right, Hitler youth, gamergaters would have a genuine meltdown. The GOP would lose half the ethnostate vote over night.
02-27-2018 , 12:40 PM
Quick pick of Trump’s 2020 campaign manager (and future mueller target):

02-27-2018 , 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
My lulz would be bigly if they banned violent video games. The utoobz right, Hitler youth, gamergaters would have a genuine meltdown. The GOP would lose half the ethnostate vote over night.
It might be something that could actually unite people under 40-years old from every end of the political spectrum.

My kid was playing a violent game yesterday (Roblox, though, so not graphic in the slightest - I don't let him play COD or things like that) and he was all excited to tell me about his sniper shots and awesome knives and ****. I casually said something like, "That wouldn't be fun to do in real life, would it?"

He responded with a resounding, "Oh, no...."

I've always said that violent video games don't make people violent. It's the other way around: people with predisposition toward violence are attracted to violent video games (though obviously they aren't the only ones).
02-27-2018 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Quick pick of Trump’s 2020 campaign manager (and future mueller target):



THE BEST PEOPLE!
02-27-2018 , 12:54 PM


I would like to introduce into evidence exhibit ASZ#500 as to why Trump is WPOAT.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jaketappe...20217553981441
02-27-2018 , 12:58 PM
Gates must've had something really good to say



https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/stat...16999545573377
02-27-2018 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Deaths of people in war is not the be all and end all of a bad president.
True, you obviously have to take into account whether it was a worthwhile endeavour and whether it achieved anything.

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Otherwise Lincoln would be one of the worst of all time.
Nah, see above.
02-27-2018 , 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by OneEyedPoker
Gates must've had something really good to say



https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/stat...16999545573377
whoa, what
02-27-2018 , 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by OneEyedPoker
Gates must've had something really good to say



https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/stat...16999545573377
SEE??? WITCH HUNT
02-27-2018 , 01:06 PM


https://mobile.twitter.com/funder/st...05027798224896

Literall THE BRAINS behind to WPOAT.
02-27-2018 , 01:09 PM
Trump is gonna say something about exonerated while Manafort is probably already on the phone with his lawyers trying to figure out what kind of deal he could get.
02-27-2018 , 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman


I would like to introduce into evidence exhibit ASZ#500 as to why Trump is WPOAT.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jaketappe...20217553981441
Trump is so obviously owned by Putin & Russia, it's not even debatable. He's owned by everyone in power or with money. All the lobbies, the churches, Wall Street, corporations, industries, you name it.

The media overplays the "Trump is an idiot" stance by a wide margin. True he's an idiot, but not in the sense you would think. He's politically, legally, historically, and logistically ******ed. But he's great at several things that are incredibly dangerous and wrecking for the country...

He's great at manipulating the media or masses of emotionally volatile people, great at marketing/branding, great at hiring flawed people he can compromise, great at being selfish for him and his family & associates.

This all comes with a price. When you compromise others for example, you get compromised yourself. When you can negotiate well for yourself, you fail everyone else. When you're owned by rich racists, you sacrifice the poor and browns. Etc etc.

Trump just does what he wants to do and **** everyone else. The fact that he's terrible at justifying why he's screwing the world makes him look more incompetent than he really is. He's definitely getting better at covering up than he was last year or in 2016, which is scary in a Fascist way.
02-27-2018 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by OneEyedPoker
Gates must've had something really good to say



https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/stat...16999545573377
resident lawyers, wtf is the meaning of all this?
02-27-2018 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Chippa58
Paul Ryan: "We have to ask ourselves about the kind of culture that's creating these kinds of people". Like the gun culture perhaps? No. Not that culture. Another culture. Like the violent video game culture? Oh yeah. That must be the problem. I guess he'll investigate ways of addressing that. These people are incorrigible. Most of them would ban violent video games before banning any type of gun.
Does the GOP have a position on paintball? Seems like that should be far worse than video games as you're actually shooting other people, but based on my experience it's primarily gun lovers that play paintball, I'm guessing that gets a pass for some reason.
02-27-2018 , 01:18 PM
Dismissing Gates' charges means he just gave something up that's extremely important to the case. Manafort's already pinned to the wall, so it probably means an even bigger fish (Trump, please dealer, one time!) is now on the hook.
02-27-2018 , 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OneEyedPoker
Gates must've had something really good to say



https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/stat...16999545573377
Lawyers, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the "without prejudice" part mean that they can bring back the charges if Gates doesn't cooperate to Mueller's liking?
02-27-2018 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sighsalot
resident lawyers, wtf is the meaning of all this?
It likely means that in return for pleading, he's getting reduced charges. Quick read looks like they are only dismissing some, but not all of the charges.

Also, it's without prejudice, which means that the charges can be refiled at any time.
02-27-2018 , 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Dismissing Gates' charges means he just gave something up that's extremely important to the case. Manafort's already pinned to the wall, so it probably means an even bigger fish (Trump, please dealer, one time!) is now on the hook.
Realistically, would that process unravel that quickly? I am trying to imagine a scenario where Gates is hit with all of these charges and has all of this jail time looming, despite a possible pardon upcoming. And 5 days later all charges are dropped? You guys think he really gave them something that powerful that a vet like Mueller just snap called and said OK.

Is there any other legal possibility to consider that we're overlooking?
02-27-2018 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Lawyers, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the "without prejudice" part mean that they can bring back the charges if Gates doesn't cooperate to Mueller's liking?
Yes

      
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