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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

02-22-2018 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
You know what you said and how you meant it and now you're just lying. It would be difficult for anything to be more dismissive than "opining about how awful America is for interfering in Guatamala or wherever". You should be ****ing off you ****ing liar.
Look, if you want to come at me that's fine, we can aids up this thread with a thunderdome all day long idgaf. But it's going to be about what I actually said, not what you *think* I meant by what I said. That goes for the person you quoted too.
02-22-2018 , 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
I think it is brilliant to make being a teacher much less appealing to people who want to educate kids but much more appealing to people who just want to be able to carry a gun st work.
02-22-2018 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
to piggyback this.

How long before a student overpowers a teacher and shoots the teacher?


I was a teacher for 4 years before I switched professions. If I had a gun on the me the whole time, the percentage of me drawing down on a kid at some point is 100%
100% we will be having a discussion about if a kid with saggy pants who was acting disrespectful looked like he was reaching for his waist when the shook algebra teacher blasted him in front of the class.

We can’t even get cops to stop shooting unarmed kids, secure their guns from being stolen and used in crimes etc. This is the stupidest ****ing thing I have ever heard. If they succeed to start arming public school teachers to avoid making laws to stop mass shootings I’m getting the **** out of here. This is just beyond absurd.

Does anyone even remember their teachers in high school? I witnessed the old centerfold on the overhead projector screen trick, the grade book stolen, hell one time a kid snuck in the window during a test to take it for his twin brother. We had one fired for a relationship with a student, one fired for threatening a student, one committed suicide....let’s give them all guns to shoot out with the disturbed mass murderer.
02-22-2018 , 12:43 PM
TBF armed teachers would probably do more to further the right wing goal of undermining public education more than any vouchers or charter schools ever could.
02-22-2018 , 12:46 PM
i dont know if it's more appropriate to laugh or cry

laugh to keep from crying?
02-22-2018 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
100% we will be having a discussion about if a kid with saggy pants who was acting disrespectful looked like he was reaching for his waist when the shook algebra teacher blasted him in front of the class.

We can’t even get cops to stop shooting unarmed kids, secure their guns from being stolen and used in crimes etc. This is the stupidest ****ing thing I have ever heard. If they succeed to start arming public school teachers to avoid making laws to stop mass shootings I’m getting the **** out of here. This is just beyond absurd.
It's just another extension of what we've been seeing the past 20 years.



They want guns everywhere, end of story.
02-22-2018 , 12:50 PM
Sure is strange how Twitter nuked a bunch of Russian bots and now the responses to Trump tweets aren't filled with people knob slobbing him. How weird

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02-22-2018 , 12:51 PM
good job ScreaminAsian your pictures of Trump keep getting better. I will enjoy another seven years of these.




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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
02-22-2018 , 12:52 PM
WTF is the point of that dude w/ the AR-15 on his back? What if the dude taking the picture decided to grab it instead?
02-22-2018 , 12:54 PM
Anti-social dip****s get off on being intimidating in public.
02-22-2018 , 12:54 PM
Hey remember when the shooter killed the cops in Dallas? And like, there were loads of cops with guns there? And like, it’s an open carry state and because of that they were after the wrong guy for a while cuz he had a gun and by a miracle he didn’t get blasted by a cop or another of the however many legally armed “good guys” who saw him on the news?

Yeah a robot with a bomb killed that shooter. Not a math teacher with a gun. Not even the swat snipers.

Gtfo.
02-22-2018 , 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
WTF is the point of that dude w/ the AR-15 on his back? What if the dude taking the picture decided to grab it instead?
Wrong, You can tell from the khakis and puffy-fitting white shirt that the dude is a bad ass. It would be even further confirmed if you saw the cell phone holder in his belt on the front.
02-22-2018 , 12:56 PM
[ ] teachers with guns will fix it
[x] students with pitchforks will fix it
02-22-2018 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
WTF is the point of that dude w/ the AR-15 on his back? What if the dude taking the picture decided to grab it instead?
Or a nice well placed uppercut directly to the balls. His gun strapped to his back would sure protect from that.

Or, you know, a dude coming up behind him and blasting him with his handgun in the head. "Thanks for advertising, now I know who to take out first. Ho ho ho, now I've got a machine gun."

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02-22-2018 , 12:57 PM
Can they please test their theory first before arming teachers? Relax the security at the Senate and House, let the Congress folks carry guns, and see what the result is when a shooter is in the viewing gallery.
02-22-2018 , 12:58 PM
Literally NOTHING to like about this guy.



https://twitter.com/jeneps/status/966702469446324224
02-22-2018 , 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
+1

This is why the accusations of whataboutism are hollow. It's not "ok, but that doesn't mean Russian meddling is ok" or "what we did wasn't the same thing", it's "lol Guatemala."
I've already learnt in this thread that Asian countries are far less important than American office complexes. Surely Central American countries won't fare much better.
02-22-2018 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant
Hey remember when the shooter killed the cops in Dallas? And like, there were loads of cops with guns there? And like, it’s an open carry state and because of that they were after the wrong guy for a while cuz he had a gun and by a miracle he didn’t get blasted by a cop or another of the however many legally armed “good guys” who saw him on the news?

Yeah a robot with a bomb killed that shooter. Not a math teacher with a gun. Not even the swat snipers.

Gtfo.
Pulse had an armed off duty police officer on premises, too. **** LaPierre (again!) for stating that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. And **** all his slappies for actually believing in him. It's gotten to the point where there are massive conspiracy theories going on in right wing circles about how the media under reports these heroes because their agenda is gun control.
**** them all.
02-22-2018 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Sure is strange how Twitter nuked a bunch of Russian bots and now the responses to Trump tweets aren't filled with people knob slobbing him. How weird

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Noticeable, isn't it? Now imagine the impact from months of that on FB, twitter, and other social media, and being amplified by the media during the campaign.
02-22-2018 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Yuv
I've already learnt in this thread that Asian countries are far less important than American office complexes. Surely Central American countries won't fare much better.
You'd be hard pressed to find a corner of the world in which US foreign policy hasn't been awful at some point. Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, our propping up of a brutal dictator in Cuba which led to 50+ years of an arguably worse dictator, and on and on. We've done some deplorable **** over the centuries. That doesn't mean we should give Russia and Trump and/or whoever was involved a mulligan on 2016 because we've done bad ****. It may make me a hypocrite to say that, but I don't really care. I'll concede the point even.
02-22-2018 , 01:15 PM
I saw the avatars and thought Trolly Mcrtrollson and trollywantacracker were the same account. I had high respect for them thinking they were the same, but now I'm not so sure.
02-22-2018 , 01:16 PM
Twitter's top trending list still seems pretty jacked.
02-22-2018 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
1) I don't get why you think this is important? He doesn't think that the meddling is necessarily important and wanted to establish that first. And as you say by implication that his response is 100% good, he's right that Russian meddling isn't necessarily important, that its importance is something that has to be proven and demonstrated
You should know just as well as ikes just how bad it looks when someone asks you a yes or no question. If the answer is "yes, but", that's one thing. But if it's "well first I need to establish what the question is and what yes or no could mean" blah blah blah everyone ****ing knows that you know what the answer is, you just don't want to say it because it'll expose you.

Thus, what Risen did to Greenwald.

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2) It doesn't make it through because Greenwald actually doesn't think that there is any compelling evidence available right now that the Russian meddling is important. So given that belief it would be super weird for Greenwald to include, what, some sort of caveat in each of his articles saying "hey it's possible Russia worked with Trump during the election but there's no evidence for that right now". Of course Greenwald isn't going to do that. And when you say people are confused, I don't think you mean you're confused. You seem to understand where he's coming from. And agree with much of it? But you're saying that dumb people are confused? Sure, they often are.
What? Son you're slipping back to ole Confederacy defending Klan avatar days with this ****. Remember when you said you weren't aware of the content of Greenwald's appearances on Carlson until yesterday? That shoulda set off that "oh maybe it's not opinion sharing time for me then" red light.

People who don't encounter Greenwald's more moderate statements will be lead to believe that Greenwald thinks Russia is a hoax with no evidence. This is readily apparent from reading his twitter mentions which inevitably devolve into Russiagate fan fiction vs. Breitbart reader flame wars.

Risen was generous on this point. It's pretty clear Greenwald isn't just being a bad communicator on this, he's openly disingenuous. He's ikesing.
02-22-2018 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty Lice
WTF is the point of that dude w/ the AR-15 on his back? What if the dude taking the picture decided to grab it instead?
Or worse, there's a 4 '11 in height 62 year old female teacher carrying a gun in the school cafeteria. It wouldn't take more than a 14 year old kid to wrestle it from her and then use her gun to start shooting at everyone. Then another teacher shoots at the kid only to have 4 bullets miss, ricochet, and then hit 4 other kids.
02-22-2018 , 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by heh
Pulse had an armed off duty police officer on premises, too. **** LaPierre (again!) for stating that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.
not the only way but it can help

Remember the story of Suzanna Hupp

Hupp and her parents were having lunch at the Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen in 1991 when a mass shooting took place. The gunman, George Hennard, shot 44 people in all, killing 24 of them, including himself. The fatally wounded included both of Hupp's parents. Hupp later expressed regret about deciding to remove her gun from her purse and lock it in her car, lest she risk possibly running afoul of the state's concealed weapons laws; during the shootings, she reached for her weapon but then remembered that it was "a hundred feet [30 m] away in my car."

      
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