The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. - Page 4628 - Politics and Economics

It’s also a check on the current administration. People who aren’t currently employed by them and aren’t politicians are free to evaluate wtf they are doing and share their opinions publicly.

Yeah people debating this too often ignore the fact that Trump is violating the constitution by revoking these clearances. It is blatant.

08-21-2018 , 02:46 PM

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DodgerIrish

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And I was having so much fun laughing at Gorka too. Dammit.

All the Trumptards cling to (it's the only argument they need) is deniability. Trump is just going to keep skating by.

eta: Papadopoulos only being recommended for (up to) 6 months, it's all very disheartening. Seems like this is all going to lack teeth.

08-21-2018 , 02:46 PM

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Max Cut

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08-21-2018 , 02:50 PM

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Namath12

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minor felonies

08-21-2018 , 02:50 PM

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uDevil

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I would be utterly lost trying to understand the news without lawyers around that are above Rudy/CNN/FOX level.

Lots of grade A material for the rally!

08-21-2018 , 02:51 PM

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Max Cut

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https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status...73687510085633

campaign finance violation

https://twitter.com/JRubinBlogger/st...75682367213568

Spoiler:

08-21-2018 , 02:53 PM

#115682

GTO2.0

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He can just plead to everything they have on him without getting any promised benefit, although it would be kind of odd to do that pre-arrest, which implies some sort of negotiation with the prosecutors.

08-21-2018 , 02:54 PM

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Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

It doesn't lack teeth completely. Even if it's one count of a campaign finance violation it'll be a felony conviction given the amount of money involved (any amount may be a felony, not sure exactly how the code sections read). He'll also be disbarred if he hasn't been already.

In any event he's extremely live for a pardon but that applies to all of them.

08-21-2018 , 02:56 PM

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Re the pardon: could be that the Feds weren’t getting anywhere with him and just said screw it, let’s close it out and kick the rest to the AG or whatever.

08-21-2018 , 02:56 PM

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ecriture d'adulte

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

minor felonies

Light treason.

08-21-2018 , 02:56 PM

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markksman

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DodgerIrish

Bull**** that it's a political blow to Trump.

This doesn't move the needle one bit.

Yeah it’s just a preface to a pardon.

08-21-2018 , 02:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

Maybe because he is guilty of only relatively minor crimes -- campaign finance stuff

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

https://twitter.com/AliVelshi/status...73687510085633

LOL

08-21-2018 , 02:59 PM

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wheatrich

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Media should say cohen/manafort walk so trump doesn't pardon them.

Or it's just me wanting to have a good laugh at Trump blasting FAKE NEWS THOSE PEOPLE WHO ALL WORK FOR ME ARE GUILTY.

08-21-2018 , 03:02 PM

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Infrastructure Week off to an amazing start.

08-21-2018 , 03:02 PM

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Can we get a Manafort guilty verdict on 17/18 or 18/18 counts, AND a Cohen guilty plea with cooperation on the same afternoon? Trump will break Twitter.

08-21-2018 , 03:20 PM

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uDevil

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Just in case, I hope the FBI is on the lookout for Ted Cruz' father when Cohen walks into court.

08-21-2018 , 03:45 PM

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No way he's not cooperating. They aren't going to let Gene "Taxi King" Friedman and Cohen both get deals for minimal time if there is no one up the chain, so to speak. You can't have two mob enforcers rat out each other and then give them both minimal time. That would be beyond gutless. Hell, the feds cut a check for like a million just for the privilege review. They likely have evidence of many crimes and need someone to explain the docs.

08-21-2018 , 03:50 PM

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simplicitus

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https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/1031990845925457921

08-21-2018 , 03:51 PM

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ScreaminAsian

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oh my

08-21-2018 , 03:53 PM

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wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cuserounder

Can we get a Manafort guilty verdict on 17/18 or 18/18 counts, AND a Cohen guilty plea with cooperation on the same afternoon? Trump will break Twitter.

Doesn't he have a rally tonight? I'm sure that's gonna sound super coherent and he totally will not go off the script.

edit--yes he does, we almost had flynn sentencing (got delayed), manafort indictment (jury still deliberating), AND cohen pleading guilty all in a day or two.

Looks like there's a lot of witches to me.