The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. - Page 3734 - Politics and Economics

Obviously it is completely predictable. I don't think we are surprised. I for one am just worried about having a ill-tempered manbaby who is under investigation leading some kind of military boondogle and the related possibilities.

From a macro perspective what exactly do we hope to accomplish? We are retaliating against Assad for gassing his own people by...killing Syrians? That makes next to no sense. Then again that has pretty much been our foriegn policy since long before most of us were born.

+1

Also, we dont even have conclusive evidence that it even happened, and much reason to believe it may have been staged. The rest of the world seems to think it was a false flag, as well as Syrian hospitals claiming there were no wounded patients coming in etc.

If you think this stuff doesnt happen, I suggest you check these videos out.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=818_1479817993
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=b3d_1503957760

04-13-2018 , 09:48 PM

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ligastar

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Originally Posted by WichitaDM

imo this is about Iran's position in the region getting too strong. the West has no leverage/control over the situation now and the West's position is very weak. this is unacceptable for Israel... and the U.S. being Israel's ***** leads us to the beginning of some serious **** about to go down once again in the ME.

04-13-2018 , 09:48 PM

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I figured that someone just leaked it to Fox and Friends. I guess the information flow is not entirely a one way street.

04-13-2018 , 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

maybe. But also maybe because other dumb TV hosts told him how he was a puppet of Russia and wasn't sufficiently harsh on Russia.

Yeah man Trump is known for religiously watching Maddow and has a track record of trying to impress her.

A smart guy trying as hard as he can, everyone! He's struggling, but what can you expect?

04-13-2018 , 09:49 PM

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Many people on both sides...

04-13-2018 , 09:49 PM

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FlyWf

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Originally Posted by adam001

Shut the **** up

04-13-2018 , 09:50 PM

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Go **** yourself

04-13-2018 , 09:50 PM

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ligastar

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Can't wait to use that against BAIDS when he's having a go in the USA#1 thread

lol yep.

U.S. is Israel's b!tch and the UK is USA's b!tch.

04-13-2018 , 09:51 PM

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SenorKeeed

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Originally Posted by FlyWf

Yeah man Trump is known for religiously watching Maddow and has a track record of trying to impress her.

A smart guy trying as hard as he can, everyone! He's struggling, but what can you expect?

hahaha right, I'm sure that Trump is totally unfamiliar with the criticism that he is a puppet of Putin.

04-13-2018 , 09:52 PM

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SirOsis

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

maybe. But also maybe because other dumb TV hosts told him how he was a puppet of Russia and wasn't sufficiently harsh on Russia.

This is distilled, purified LOL. I see why you guys are frequently peeved at this guy.

04-13-2018 , 09:52 PM

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This has to be good for poker, no?

p.s. Keed gets a few redemption credits for posting a Randy gif. I didn't read the actual post, so not sure if he came out ahead or not.

edit: Update: nevermind, he's already fallen behind again.

04-13-2018 , 09:53 PM

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Alrighty then.

04-13-2018 , 09:54 PM

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obv this was the key line in the speech:

open-ended. just the way Bolton et al. want it.

04-13-2018 , 09:55 PM

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"Precision-guided strikes" and "high-grade intelligence" are a couple of phrases getting a lot of air time once again.

04-13-2018 , 09:56 PM

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Exactly my thoughts how do we know they have permanently stopped? Obviously we can't so it just allows us to bomb away indefinitely.

04-13-2018 , 09:57 PM

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obv this was the key line in the speech:

open-ended. just the way Bolton et al. want it.

Yup... How will Congress react if he tries to violate the War Powers Act? Will he go for an AUMF? I doubt it...

Doubt they'll do anything about it, either. It helps the GOP in Congress as much as it helps him. This will be a huge boost for the GOP in generic Congressional polling.

04-13-2018 , 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WichitaDM

Exactly my thoughts how do we know they have permanently stopped? Obviously we can't so it just allows us to bomb away indefinitely.

Also if the rebels have chemical weapons it gives them veto power on continuing the attacks or not.

04-13-2018 , 09:58 PM

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Always surprised when a new conspiracy dude comes in here and has more than like, 40 posts.

04-13-2018 , 09:59 PM

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04-13-2018 , 09:59 PM

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"Precision-guided strikes" and "high-grade intelligence" are a couple of phrases getting a lot of air time once again.

once the daylight images and videos begin to air i'm guessing we'll hear the term collateral damage a time or two.

04-13-2018 , 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed

This is not just Russian equipment. This is American planes firing ordinance at a Russian ally, when there are thousands of Russian troops fighting in that war. It is different.

Yeah no. In case you thought this meant Trump was going hard on Russia...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bus...n-syria-2018-4

04-13-2018 , 10:05 PM

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He's so concerned about protecting the people of Syria. Unless, of course, that means accepting refugees.

Lol I just paraphrased you on Facebook and holy **** did i trigger some deplorables.

04-13-2018 , 10:09 PM

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stinkubus

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Originally Posted by Melkerson

Well I guess if he said it, it must be true. Can anyone explain further?

I still don't understand how indirect firing can be prevented. Let's say Trump does the following:

1. Trump fires guy who recused himself.
2. Trump appoints new guy who won't recuse himself.
3. New guy shuts it down and/or fires of the career prosecutors that put up resistance.

Seems like it would be difficult to prevent.

I would assume that civil service rules preclude firing without cause. Whether or not a new appointee could or would shut down the investigation I do not know.

04-13-2018 , 10:11 PM

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Call me crazy but im ok with allied coalition strikes against anyone who used chemical weapons on children.

Think peoole are overthinking this and the reasons can actually be taken at face value.

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