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10-16-2017 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
They usually aren't legal residents and can't legally work in those countries. They're just expats, and USA#1 is still their only nationality. Becoming an actual resident with the right to work and a path to citizenship is a lot more involved than just renting a room in a Rosarito poker house.

Migrating to Canada as a skilled worker requires you to demonstrate proficiency in either English or French; my wife and I took the test in February, just in case.

Also we’ve all spent enough time and effort itt trying to redeem awval; dude is just a scumbag, a simpleton, a troll, or some combination. Everything he says makes sense in that context, trying to figure out some deeper philosophy is futile.

Last edited by Jiggymike; 10-16-2017 at 12:34 AM.
10-16-2017 , 12:25 AM
All this for 2k in tax cuts LOL
10-16-2017 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
Migrating to Canada as a skilled worker requires you to demonstrate proficiency in either English or French; my wife and I took the test in February, just in case.

Also we’ve all spent enough time and effort itt trying to redeem awval; dude is just a scumbag, a simpleton, a troll, or some combination. Everything he says makes sense in that context, trying to figure out some deeper philosophy is futile.
if demonstrating proficiency in English or French was all it would take to "migrate" into Canada, we'd be the most populated country in this hemisphere.

sincerely, one expat to a prospective, i hope you find what you are looking for.
10-16-2017 , 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by mendicant loafer
if demonstrating proficiency in English or French was all it would take to "migrate" into Canada, we'd be the most populated country in this hemisphere.

sincerely, one expat to a prospective, i hope you find what you are looking for.
No doubt. People are really underestimating how hard it is immigrate here.
10-16-2017 , 12:47 AM

Last edited by yeSpiff; 10-16-2017 at 12:50 AM. Reason: im moving to america to vote !
10-16-2017 , 12:53 AM
COAL!@!!!!
10-16-2017 , 01:23 AM
I hope it's that clean coal, very very clean.
10-16-2017 , 01:37 AM
Not a minute goes by that I don’t think about coal.

10-16-2017 , 01:41 AM
When it comes down to it hardly anyone will try to emigrate from the USA while their job still exists, even if a war breaks out. People are just venting in the same way that right wing celebrities 'threaten' to leave the UK if a Labour government gets in, but rarely do.

Nothing wrong with venting though - it's important to feel you have a Plan B, even if it's just self-mind games.
10-16-2017 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
It's because he only cares about himself. It's hard to begrudge anyone for that. You got one life to live. Live it how the **** you want and not for people who are going to call you out because they are upset with the decisions you made for yourself.
That's fine if you are a private citizen.

But those are terrible qualities in a public servant.
10-16-2017 , 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
Migrating to Canada as a skilled worker requires you to demonstrate proficiency in either English or French; my wife and I took the test in February, just in case.

Also we’ve all spent enough time and effort itt trying to redeem awval; dude is just a scumbag, a simpleton, a troll, or some combination. Everything he says makes sense in that context, trying to figure out some deeper philosophy is futile.
It's very easy to emigrate anywhere, just buy property (house) and open a business yourself. Even if it's a nothing business like a coin operated car wash. Then just show you have other good skills and education
10-16-2017 , 02:51 AM
Americans tend to assume that it is super easy to move wherever you want since it is so easy for people to move here and once people are here, they basically get all the rights and can do whatever they want just as Americans can. Reality is totally different unless you have $millions of dollars.
10-16-2017 , 02:55 AM
Trump Unfiltered: The Full Transcript Of The President's Interview With Forbes
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Meanwhile, the president’s (understandable) assumption that there must be some empirical basis for the GOP’s belief that tax cuts pay for themselves led him to make a fool of himself in an interview with Forbes’s Randall Lane:
Lane: So it’s a massive tax cut, but then that runs against your pledge to not increase the deficit because you can’t, you know.
Trump: No, because, no, because a tax cut will spur growth.
Lane: Yes, that is true, and there is dynamic scoring.
Trump: The growth, the growth will be so much that it’ll be —
Lane: Yes, but history has shown that you can’t just cut. It does spur growth, but it won’t pay for itself. History has shown that.
Trump: Well, history has also shown the opposite. I mean, you’ve had it both ways. It has shown both ways.
Lane: Which time have you been able to cut and out of growth cut —
Trump: Well, during Reagan, during Reagan, during his cuts, he — tremendous growth.
Lane: It spurred growth, but it also ballooned the deficit.
10-16-2017 , 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by sylar
You are still going to vote absentee tho, right?
Just a matter of requesting a ballot.

Unfortunately being registered in New York sort of blunts the value of my vote.

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
When it comes down to it hardly anyone will try to emigrate from the USA while their job still exists, even if a war breaks out. People are just venting in the same way that right wing celebrities 'threaten' to leave the UK if a Labour government gets in, but rarely do.
Sure. It's incredibly difficult especially with a family in tow. I was lucky to have previous experience living overseas and few attachments to my home country.
10-16-2017 , 03:48 AM
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Here in the Fake News Media, we spend a lot of time documenting all the ways in which Donald Trump’s “populism” is a lie. (The president isn’t a self-made titan of business so much as a trust-fund kid turned con artist; his administration isn’t pro-worker, only pro-boss; far from “draining the swamp,” he’s flooding it with raw sewage.)

But there is one sense in which Trump is genuinely a man of the people — or, more precisely, of a certain subsegment of said people: Like millions of ordinary Americans, Donald Trump watches a lot of Fox News, but isn’t really interested in politics.

No occupant of the Oval Office has ever shared the average person’s disinterest in policy, parliamentary procedure, and the rudiments of American civics to the extent that Trump does. He is America’s first “low-information voter” president.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...licies-do.html
10-16-2017 , 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by awval999
I just don’t get why you all think I’ll be unable to admit “I was wrong”.

Like I’m some sort of a child or something.

I took a ride on the Trump Train, if I don’t like the destination I’ll get off at the next stop at the corner of 2018 and Democracy and take the Blue Train back.
I think posters are just shocked that given the train wreck that Trump presidency has already been you're not already able to admit you were wrong. The guy has shown himself to be incompetent to the point of having his own SoS calling him a ****ing moron, not being able to get any major legislation through w/ R majority, nepotism, insane cabinet turnover, Flynn/Manafort to face indictment, displaying mental illness, and acting like a ****ing 8 year old idiot on twitter daily.

Just get over it guys. Move on. Awval represents ~30% of the country and there is likely nothing Dumpty can do where he will admit he erred, at least publicly. We are at a point where if someone has not yet disavowed him he never will be. The same 25% that still supported Nixon during his impeachment
10-16-2017 , 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Misogyny is looking like a pretty big factor.
also this, which i believe has been linked here before (from 2008)-

https://www.salon.com/2008/11/03/racists_for_obama/

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A man canvassing for Obama in western Pennsylvania asks a housewife which candidate she intends to vote for. She yells to her husband to find out. From the interior of the house, he calls back, "We're voting for the ******!" At which point the housewife turns to the canvasser and calmly repeats her husband's declaration.
turns out racism is a factor of luxury in voting. now that obama saved the economy from disaster, unemployment is down and people are in better shape all over america, bigots everywhere could afford to gamble on the unqualified racist blowhard because they thought he'd look out for them and make life worse only for minorities, somehow. the rub is in the way that these people were portrayed in the media as "economically anxious/uncertain" when it was actually their relative stability that allowed them to gamble (usa#1, always bending over backwards to showcase the purity of the white soul)

they didnt know how he was going to bring back antiquated factory/manufacturing jobs to their little ****hole towns, or how forgoing cheap 3rd world labor for american jerbs was not going to increase the price of all the goods they buy, or how he was going to fix wage stagnation despite championing trickle down voodoo economic policies, or how we were going to have tremendous GDP growth without technological innovation and investment into renewable/clean energy sources, but they knew he was going to put the jackboot on the throats of minorities, so it was assumed that he'd look out for them because they're white. and now we see just how wrong they really were.
10-16-2017 , 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by farmslicer7
All this for 2k in tax cuts LOL
and its no lock that 2k will occur. and even if it does, the health insurance increase may wipe it out. or he failing infrastructure. or the economy tanking. or another war kills the economy.

its either a lie to us, or to himself. bc theres no way anyone with half a brain could trump is gonna save money for the middle class.
10-16-2017 , 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by awval999
You literally gave my undertitle when a CLE suburban polling location attempted to bar me from voting for Obama because I rented and my driver's license didn't match the polling record.

You know I voted for Obama.

Go pull up the 2012 Election Night thread.

Sure, I voted for Ron Paul in the 2008/2012 primaries. Because, like this is 2+2 and anarchocapitalism. That's what we did here. But I voted for Obama in the general. And although I liked McCain -- the MAVERICK -- once the economy crashed in September, well, that was that. And **** RMoney and his hedge fund Bain Capital.
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Originally Posted by awval999


And here ya go.

Trump won those states because there are people who voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 voted for TRUMP in 2016.
so awval lets it slip and basically admits he's one of those voters described in the link i posted. voted for obama in '08 because economy tanked, got a nice comfy job/house/salary in the meantime and then gambled on trump in 2016 and made this gleeful OP with this exact comment-

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Originally Posted by awval999
By nearly all metrics. The country is on the right track. The stock market, an all time high. Unemployment, at historical lows. More people covered with health insurance than ever before. Yet, the American people chose to "shake things up". Because. America. And chose this man to sit in Resolute desk.
Because. White supremacy.

Last edited by +rep_lol; 10-16-2017 at 07:32 AM.
10-16-2017 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by awval999
Because it's all of the above.

But like I've said before:

If my hometown doesn't improve, if my taxes aren't lowered, if he plunges our country into another war, then he we won't get my vote for re-election.
and you will still get mocked relentlessly for being a dumb selfish racist

gonna stop quoting your bile for now tho, i feel dirty at this point
10-16-2017 , 08:12 AM
Just FYI while clowning on awval for being selfish and voting for tax cuts is fun it's important to also clown on how that's also an obvious and transparent lie. That clearly isn't what motivated his 2016 vote, Trump barely talked about his tax plan and even now a year after the election he still doesn't have a specific proposal.
10-16-2017 , 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
No doubt. People are really underestimating how hard it is immigrate here.
You guys won't even let me in for a visit because I was arrested in the states for suspicion of dui. Spoiler, I wasn't.
10-16-2017 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Just FYI while clowning on awval for being selfish and voting for tax cuts is fun it's important to also clown on how that's also an obvious and transparent lie. That clearly isn't what motivated his 2016 vote, Trump barely talked about his tax plan and even now a year after the election he still doesn't have a specific proposal.
It's clearly a lie bc anyone who has paid as much attention as awval claims, and is as smart as awval claims would have been well aware that trumps tax plan had a very good chance of raising middle class taxes.

It's also clearly a lie bc already admitted it. He already explained he voted for Trump bc of his racist friend.
10-16-2017 , 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Just FYI while clowning on awval for being selfish and voting for tax cuts is fun it's important to also clown on how that's also an obvious and transparent lie. That clearly isn't what motivated his 2016 vote, Trump barely talked about his tax plan and even now a year after the election he still doesn't have a specific proposal.
Voting based on Trump's tax plan is the most charitable assumption. He'll throw an all-caps hissy fit if we speculate on other reasons he voted for the wrack at sexual predator.
10-16-2017 , 09:33 AM
Hard core liberals just can't understand Hillary was seriously flawed candidate. South park did a parody of this like choosing between a douche and a turd sandwich.

      
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