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04-08-2017 , 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
I was looking for the shortest Carlin clip I could find that contained that bit. Did not vet the channel at all.
Yeah, no worries. I just noticed the parenthesis thing and the weird conspiracy symbols.

Carlin is great, though.
04-08-2017 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
What makes you say this?
Alt right garbage
04-08-2017 , 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by markksman
There is an absolute zero percent chance Bannon wins a fight with Ivanka's husband. Ivanka is streets ahead trumps biggest confident.

Seeing firekushner hashtags on twitter from extreme nationalist lunatics on twitter just doubles down on how clueless they are.

Bannon says he likes to brawl. It's literally game over when it's far enough for trump to kick him out. He can't do anything about it. I don't know how any of those Bannon groupies think that he could actually prevail in this. Bannon was against the Syria attack and Trump got praised for it. It's only a matter of time.
If the reports about the extreme animosity between Kushner and Bannon are true, and I bet they are, then I agree 100% that Bannon is toast.

If there is one thing that rich olds like Trump value even more than their 1950s vision of 'Merica, it's family. (As an aside, the more I watch Trump, the more he seems like a typical old white guy. The only real differences are that (i) his wealth has left him even further out of touch than usual; and (ii) he loves social media.)

I also doubt that Bannon has any interest in meeting Kushner half way. I suspect he would rather go out on his own terms.

I easily could envision a situation in Bannon gets the boot and Breitbart starts going full ham on Trump. And I think we should agree in advance that anyone who cites with approval a Breitbart article that is critical of Trump will catch an auto-ban for life.

Last edited by Rococo; 04-08-2017 at 10:37 AM.
04-08-2017 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
FWIW you may not want to watch literally any of our popular sporting events which usually include 5 Minutes of Fellating the Military pre-game/halftime or whatever, sometimes complete with a stunning show of potential military force where our jets go whiz bam boom over the stadium and the crowd goes bananas.

The thing that is even worse about this is that I think the militarism is almost completely divorced from patriotism now. It is now the valuable thing for its own sake.
Yes, but the majority does not see it the way you and I do.

Rather, they see the opposite because as a society we have conflated nationalism and patriotism in such a way that they are interchangeable. Supporting the military regardless of what it does is nationalistic. Speaking out when people go against the ideals of our country is patriotic. In other words, nationalists support institutions while patriots support ideas.

I'd be willing to argue that patriotism in America is dead and has been dead for a long time. We abandoned the ideals we were founded on a long time ago and now support institutions like the government and military instead regardless of how far they have deviated from what we once were.

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Originally Posted by Rococo
And I think we should agree in advance that anyone who cites with approval a Breitbart article that is critical of Trump will catch an auto-ban for life.
Yup.

What's going to bother me most is that if BB does go anti-Trump, anti-Trumpers are going to start using Breitbart articles and posting them the way the pro-Trump crowd used to. It would be the height of hypocrisy.
04-08-2017 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief
I've yet to hear the other side of this very valid point. How is it okay to spend $59 million to shoot missiles as a public relations stunt but not okay to let those babies temporarily into safety here?

Anyone got a link to an article that tries to justify this position?
Dude we just create terrorists we don't harbor them. Get with the program MAGA dog.
04-08-2017 , 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
If the reports about the extreme animosity between Kushner and Bannon are true, and I bet they are, then I agree 100% that Bannon is toast.

If there is one thing that rich olds like Trump value even more than their 1950s vision of 'Merica, it's family. (As an aside, the more I watch Trump, the more he seems like a typical old white guy. The only real differences are that (i) his wealth has left him even further out of touch than usual; and (ii) he loves social media.)

I also doubt that Bannon has any interest in meeting Kushner half way. I suspect he would rather go out on his own terms.

I easily could envision a situation in Bannon gets the boot and Breitbart starts going full ham on Trump. And I think we should agree in advance that anyone who cites with approval a Breitbart article that is critical of Trump will catch an auto-ban for life.
Pretty sure he takes Bannon over Tiffany
04-08-2017 , 10:45 AM

https://twitter.com/sarahkendzior/st...21076111978496
04-08-2017 , 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
We abandoned the ideals we were founded on a long time ago and now support institutions like the government and military instead regardless of how far they have deviated from what we once were.
I guess it depends on what you mean by "a long time ago." I would argue that blind support of our government and military was more prevalent from 1910-1960 than it is now. Vietnam/Nixon/Watergate marked the beginning of big changes in people's views about the gov't and the military. And those changes (especially the attitudes about government) were not all for the good.

It's a relatively short leap from deep cynicism to populism.
04-08-2017 , 10:50 AM

https://twitter.com/profmusgrave/sta...15405127757828
04-08-2017 , 10:55 AM
Over/under on weeks until sanctions on Russia are lifted in response to Putin intervening with Asaad?
04-08-2017 , 11:04 AM
This is the first time since the election I've went 48+ hours without checking The News. I don't do the alert-on-smart-phone thing.

It's an incredible feeling. We could be at war with NK right now for all I know. Or, Paul Ryan could be Prez and doing some sick-ass bicep curls in The Oval right now for all I know.

These are days you'll remember, the days of miracle and wonder.
04-08-2017 , 11:07 AM
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The footage, which was uploaded online this week, appears to show the unidentified female passenger hurling slurs and curses at the male driver for several minutes.

“I’m going to start screaming out the window that you’re raping me, that you raped me,” she says.

“I will punch myself in the face and tell the cops you did it,” she adds. “You wanna play?”
Damn women, always playing their woman card to get one over on men. Donald is going to put the feminists in their place.

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The woman tells the driver, “Go back to your country” and says, “Donald Trump going to send you and your family back. Get the **** out of my country.”

The incident all seemed to unfold, according to the Post, because the driver did not have an iPhone charger.
Oh.

Some people are just terrible.

http://www.theroot.com/uber-bans-pas...ium=socialflow
04-08-2017 , 11:23 AM
Breitbart vs Trump would be super interesting in terms of how much the tail wags the dog. Trump plus BB totally destroyed fox news (cucked them in the parlance of our time) but trumps 30% approval has to be mostly alt right swamp dwellers by now right? I don't think bannon will take on the fight because he knows it'd be to the death whereas if he goes quietly he can keep his empire regardless. I'd like to see it though.
04-08-2017 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
FWIW you may not want to watch literally any of our popular sporting events which usually include 5 Minutes of Fellating the Military pre-game/halftime or whatever, sometimes complete with a stunning show of potential military force where our jets go whiz bam boom over the stadium and the crowd goes bananas.
It should be mentioned that these Fellate the Military pageants are paid for by the DoD. The league gets to look like it's patriotically recognizing the troops while also cashing checks from Uncle Sam.

http://www.sbnation.com/2015/11/4/96...report-million

I do like the whiz-bam jets, tho, tbh. Great fun to be at a Navy football game and get buzzed by an F-18.
04-08-2017 , 12:28 PM
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For the past few months, 21st Century Fox has been using the infamous Donald Trump Access Hollywood tape during company seminars to give Fox staffers an example of bad behavior in the workplace — a fact that became especially awkward this week as President Trump defended one of Fox's biggest stars, Bill O'Reilly, who is facing his own harassment scandal.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ram...eminars-991267

"Alright folks, you see the things Trump and Bill O'Reilly did?...Anything more than that crosses the line here!"
04-08-2017 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
FWIW you may not want to watch literally any of our popular sporting events which usually include 5 Minutes of Fellating the Military pre-game/halftime or whatever, sometimes complete with a stunning show of potential military force where our jets go whiz bam boom over the stadium and the crowd goes bananas.

The thing that is even worse about this is that I think the militarism is almost completely divorced from patriotism now. It is now the valuable thing for its own sake.
Every game has to start with the national anthem, and god help you if you don't stand and give overt respect during it. TV is however allowed to run commercials for beer over it tho, bec time=$$
04-08-2017 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
Every game has to start with the national anthem, and god help you if you don't stand and give overt respect during it. TV is however allowed to run commercials for beer over it tho, bec time=$$
To be fair, this is not exclusive to America.

I wouldn't have a problem playing the anthem if it didn't suck so much.
04-08-2017 , 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Trump's back golfing again.
https://twitter.com/seanhannity/stat...71259643879425
04-08-2017 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
https://twitter.com/seanhannity/stat...71259643879425
But but this is different. His golfing is used for solving world problems. Don't you know that!
04-08-2017 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
lol Bannon

How could he possibly think he could ever win vs. Ivanka. Get a clue bro.
Because he's an alcoholic ******* who won the lottery. He's Jamie Gold on HSP thinking he can make syk plays brah bc he won WSOP.
04-08-2017 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Yes, but the majority does not see it the way you and I do.

Rather, they see the opposite because as a society we have conflated nationalism and patriotism in such a way that they are interchangeable. Supporting the military regardless of what it does is nationalistic. Speaking out when people go against the ideals of our country is patriotic. In other words, nationalists support institutions while patriots support ideas.

I'd be willing to argue that patriotism in America is dead and has been dead for a long time. We abandoned the ideals we were founded on a long time ago and now support institutions like the government and military instead regardless of how far they have deviated from what we once were.



Yup.

What's going to bother me most is that if BB does go anti-Trump, anti-Trumpers are going to start using Breitbart articles and posting them the way the pro-Trump crowd used to. It would be the height of hypocrisy.
Said institutions were implemented by elites to protect wealth and they've always been pretty good at it imo.
04-08-2017 , 02:07 PM
That's one thing a government does.

Quite an oversimplification to imply that it's the only thing.

The government was supposed to operate based on the US Constitution. Unfortunately, that founding document might as well be set on fire now given the changes that have been made.

We have been indoctrinated to think that being a good patriot means supporting the government regardless of its decisions. But that's being a nationalist. True patriots are protesting and forming a resistance against the current administration.
04-08-2017 , 02:20 PM
It's probably inevitable that the richest and most powerful country militarily is very patriotic and militaristic.

Historians, is there an exception? 15th century China?
04-08-2017 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
It's probably inevitable that the richest and most powerful country militarily is very patriotic and militaristic.

Historians, is there an exception? 15th century China?
I'm not a historian, but I would guess that the average US citizen is less militaristic than the citizens of most countries/nations/empires with strong militaries throughout history. For most of its history, the US has no compulsory military service. Only 1.4% of US women and 13.4% of US men have ever served in the military. For a huge percentage of Americans, the military is a very abstract concept -- that is, something that other people (mostly people with fewer opportunities) do.
04-08-2017 , 02:42 PM
You can add isolated and ignorant to that list.

      
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