Unless it's raining.

LOL someone must of have told the dotard that the optics of what he didn't do over Veteran's Day weekend looks bad.

Somebody should link Gulen to the "When is it time to GTFO?" thread. Why is he staying in the US? There must be another country where he does not need for fear extradition.

so I just learned Gulen was the guy Flynn was gonna be paid millions to kidnap

OKAYYYY this is okAYY

As you note, the way in which the "left" and liberals tried to shine these people up and make them righteous counter-parties for The Discourse is also suggestive of a deeper, more systemic problem. Or how we allowed Reagan to be sanctified. How the same is happening to George W. Bush, where he is redeemed and where his legacy is normalized and war crimes intentionally forgotten (lol he gave Michelle Obama candy, what a sweet heart!)

Why we have a political system in which many in the opposition party are so wedded to doing this over generations now is worth examining. I think we focus too much on the overt stupidity of Trump and not enough on the systemic failures that led to it.

The blunt reality is that we pay too much respect to these guardians and centrists who grant all this credibility and cachet to obvious ghoulish racist **** on the right. And we should realize that underlying it is a certain consciousness. It's intentional. They aren't making mistakes, it's not an accident. I am sure I am came off as a horrible scold in the thread about Tucker but it's critical that the left gets woke to this fact that they are granting a lot of institutional gravitas to people who are ultimately guardians to the white supremacist gestalt and are effectively running interference for it.

It's a clever, high-end, non-confrontational semi-bluff. The guardians pay lip service to cosmopolitan, pluralist, racially egalitarian ideals to blunt criticism from their left or to shield themselves from criticism, then launder their white supremacist impulses onto hapless stooges on the right who lead the movement and play front-line soldiers in the theater of political operations.

I think this is hardly really ground-breaking though, but that's the reason why we have a political party and a movement increasingly fascistic and racially aggressive but institutions sort of fail to corral it, AND a bewildered opposition that can point to stuff like "social norms" around racial egalitarianism and non-discrimination that seemingly should be doing all this heavy lifting but is basically ineffective. Bluntly, the social norms are a con and many of the frankly white elites mouthing platitudes simply do not internalize them and instead their affinities are really wound up in white racial anxiety or patriarchal interests, too, but they're just lying about it. So glibly, they invest themselves into making William F Buckley (or Erick Erickson or whatever) socially acceptable because they know the Fourteen Words aren't.

The left's social justice project got two things out of the Civil Rights era: it got statutory protections and it pushed overt white supremacy to the subliminal boundaries. And only partially subliminal, a lot of the people who behave as if they deny their white identity and how their social value is wrapped up in it are basic liars and not that clever about it.

I think we should still cherish those victories. I mean statutory victories and making racism at least superficially shameful are better than Jim Crow and minstrel shows or whatever. But we should not lose sight of the fact these were very partial victories and lots of white elites are absolutely still seething about it but do a halfway decent job of masking it. Personally, I don't know if this is precisely true, but I still cling to the notion it's largely a Boomer problem and their kids are better and when the Boomers die off over the next 40 years it will be incrementally better still, someday.

Maybe we secretly arrange a kidnapping and send the cleric back to Tur...oh wait....

Damn. Ponied by Gen Flynn.

I saw somewhere that he was pissed at Kelly for not telling him how bad he would look for skipping the ceremony.

...because somehow he needed to be told this

Damn, thanks for this. Already on episode 2 and guessing I'll burn through it all before the end of the weekend. Fascinating stuff.

I mean, um, ok Van whatever you say

I remember just this morning when I was told Trump couldn’t pull off a “heel-turn”.

At long last, TODAY was the day that Donald J. Trump finally became President. It's all sunshine and roses from here everyone!

Soft bigotry of low expectations

Jones does this **** like once a month.

Writers have jumped the shark. As if nazi white supremist potus, who once took out full page ad to say innocent black teens should fry, would champion a prison reform bill aimed at helping black people.

Weak ass writing at this point.

i saw fentanyl mentioned. i imagine it's designed to avoid mass incarceration of hillbilly white people

Pretty sure the prison reform bill is BS. Sponsors are almost all Republican.

For one thing it sneaks in a pro-gun piece about forbidding facilities from not allowing off-duty cops/guards or some such to carry concealed weapons in some areas. (the bill's title: Lieutenant Osvaldo Albarati Correctional Officer Self-Protection Act of 2018)

For another it's regarding federal prisons and terms spent and it excludes many drug and immigration offences, so it's prison reform for white collar criminals and sex traffickers/child pornographers?

It authorizes programs it does not fund.

The GEO group has lobbied for it. - Private Prison company
Gun Owners of America lobbied for it
Heritage Foundation lobbied for it

There's probably more sneaky stuff in there.

So you agree with Van Jones on this?

How can Trump turn heel when he already is a heel?

360

Van Jones is such an imbecile

Van Jones should definitely punch himself in the balls.

Trump has not earned “Give Credit Where Credit Is Due” in fact he has done the opposite.

Lol Assange charged in US.

I hope Stone gets indicted soon because he's my #1 guy I think might try running away and I want to see it (25% chance of him trying to run?)

Van Jones is cool, but does owe himself a few punches in the balls.

Julian Assange has been charged, prosecutors reveal in inadvertent court filing

The disclosure came in a filing in a case unrelated to Assange. Assistant U.S. Attorney Kellen S. Dwyer, urging a judge to keep the matter sealed, wrote "due to the sophistication of the defendant and the publicity surrounding the case, no other procedure is likely to keep confidential the fact that Assange has been charged." Later, Dwyer wrote the charges would "need to remain sealed until Assange is arrested."

Dwyer is also assigned to the WikiLeaks case. People familiar with the matter said what Dwyer was disclosing was true, but unintentional.

Joshua Stueve, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Eastern District of Virginia said, “The court filing was made in error. That was not the intended name for this filing.”