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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

11-15-2018 , 11:05 AM
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11-15-2018 , 11:07 AM
Trump has to know something is coming given these tweets about Mueller destroying people and not investigating Hillary and the DNC.

Edit: his whines are just wierd. Like did Clinton every complain the actually politicized Starr investigation wasn't also investigating Gringrich? That's just a super wierd complaint. It's something only an idiot could say.

Last edited by simplicitus; 11-15-2018 at 11:21 AM.
11-15-2018 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
I may not like detention of unaccompanied minors, but as far I understand it is and has been the law. Immigration has been a major issue for 15 years, and there were some near compromises, which the GOP scuttled to appease their base. Some Repubs actually tried to solve to problem. Then Trump saw the opportunity to demagogue it and win among racists, who don't really understand the policies involved. Now the GOP is the racists party (well, they have been for 60 years), which doesn't help them among most voting blocks.
Times have changed and the laws and atrocities of the past, committed by the Trump, Obama or Bush administrations are no longer acceptable. There is no acceptable compromise on putting these children prison. The Dems must be given no choice but to move much further on this issue even if they have to be dragged and shamed there like they were on marriage equality and every other bit of social justice.
11-15-2018 , 11:14 AM
Of course, Mueller has been senate confirmed several times. The nazi cannot utter a single sentence without lying.
11-15-2018 , 11:17 AM
Sure, we'll just have the House pass an immagration bill under Trump that they could not pass under Obama. I don't remember the specifics, but I think filibuster was involved. Fine, kill the filibuster and take the house, Senate, and Pres in 2020. Might even be a 35% chance of that. What's your plan, to wish a new law into being?
11-15-2018 , 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TrollyWantACracker
Lol, Trump could legit get the dem nomination in 2020 if he played his cards right.
There's a much better chance of Rush Limbaugh becoming the new Rachel Maddow.
11-15-2018 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
If he does anything of the sort the deplorable base turns on him and there's a non-zero chance he spends the rest of his life in prison.

I suppose a future R President could make himself a folk hero with a pardon, but there's no way he hasn't made enemies in the social circles those people would be drawn from.
A couple things:

1) Your base deplorable hates Republicans just slightly less than Democrats. I think Deplorable racial gruevance is MUCH stronger than their disdain for Democrats. Just avoid wearing a BLM tie.

2) Republican Party of now can be summed up as whatever Trump says, goes. All he has to say is, “I’ve been with these Republican Senators behind closed doors. Truly bad people. They want to gut your healthcare and give tax breaks to the ultrawealthy. They talk down about you people constantly. I won’t say who yet, but I might. I just might”

The mere threat of Trump getting the Republican base to turn against Senators up in 2020 gets them more in line with whatever pseudo-populist manuevering he has in mind
11-15-2018 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Sure, we'll just have the House pass an immagration bill under Trump that they could not pass under Obama. I don't remember the specifics, but I think filibuster was involved. Fine, kill the filibuster and take the house, Senate, and Pres in 2020. Might even be a 35% chance of that. What's your plan, to wish a new law into being?
It starts with a lot of people being uncompromising. It ends with things like marriage equality, pot legalization, civil rights etc (the courts eventually follow the people and sometimes get there before legislatures). It takes more than 2 years.

Putting migrant children in prison is never acceptible.
11-15-2018 , 11:21 AM
Some indictments must be coming down.

Either that or Trump's watching FOXNews now.
11-15-2018 , 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by alazo1985
So this is possibly an unpopular opinion but in terms of true malicious intent I rate McConnell as worse than Trump.
Yup.

McConnell is the single worst politician in my lifetime.
11-15-2018 , 11:33 AM
Maybe this has something to do with this mornings twitter meltdown

11-15-2018 , 11:35 AM
Gotta be indictment Friday tomorrow, he had been quiet about Mueller for weeks
11-15-2018 , 11:42 AM
There isn't a single senior official in this administration who isn't completely ****ing hopeless

Mattis, defending troop deployment against caravan, cites Pancho Villa’s raid into U.S. that killed 18 Americans

11-15-2018 , 11:43 AM
I think he's learned that Whitaker has to recuse. His complaints about Sessions recusal we're always super wierd, as it wasn't really his decision.

As a reminder, Bush was as pathetic as Trump when it came to many appointments. I mean Whitaker could barely get a legal job and was appointed US Atty. It's frigging amazing. Now he's been laundered up to acting AG.

https://twitter.com/byaaroncdavis/st...038361600?s=19

Last edited by simplicitus; 11-15-2018 at 11:54 AM.
11-15-2018 , 11:44 AM
I know someone posted the Avenatti thing earlier but the story got a little weirder. Surefire intelligence (Jacob wohl’s company) is claiming credit for the arrest and reporters reached out to Avenatti’s ex-wife to comment (I believe the first few stories were that he hit her and she showed up with bruises at the station) and she says she hasn’t seen him recently and he has never laid a finger on her or ever come off as threatening toward her. If Surefire is involved then this thing is definitely fishy but we will see
11-15-2018 , 11:46 AM
What's the source on "She hit me first"?
11-15-2018 , 11:49 AM
11-15-2018 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by realDonaldTrump

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Definitely a missed opportunity here to refer to them as the Crook, the Thief, the Wife, and the Lover.
11-15-2018 , 11:56 AM
Apparently Avenatti heard too

11-15-2018 , 12:04 PM
Going after Wohl is like when Eminem started a beef with Britney Spears. Dude, you don’t look like a badass threatening to take down Jacob Wohl.
11-15-2018 , 12:07 PM
haha so like, avenatti didn't get arrested?

this whole thing is dumb, if this is another wohl prank i'm not sure what he's expecting to get out of it
11-15-2018 , 12:07 PM
So the plan was make up a false police report and then hope that no one asks any questions of anyone ever?
11-15-2018 , 12:15 PM
OK, now I’m confused, did that goofy clown Wohl swat Avenatti or did he really smack his ex wife around?
11-15-2018 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
haha so like, avenatti didn't get arrested?

this whole thing is dumb, if this is another wohl prank i'm not sure what he's expecting to get out of it
The LAPD did arrest him on suspicions of domestic violence but if Wohl is involved I would lean on this being some dumb **** show.

Also micro re the she hit me first, I’ve only seen it posted on here although I haven’t cared to look into this story much

But as of now Avenatti was arrested but the TMZ report was wrong and it wasn’t his ex wife (her statement from her lawyer is below). So it looks like it was some other woman that accused him and based on the surefire post it looks like they might be somehow involved with this woman coming forward



https://twitter.com/passantino/statu...56614657515520
11-15-2018 , 12:18 PM
Would be pretty ****ing dumb for a lawyer to say “she hit me first”, you keep quiet when you’re being arrested, everyone with any legal knowledge knows that.

      
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