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Old 01-09-2019, 07:08 PM   #2226
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My guess is the DACA deal happens. Not sure if I'd still do that if I'm Pelosi/Schumer, but whatever I'm sure they will.
We’re not at the end, but per WaPo today:

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Collins urged Trump to consider a previous deal she was a part of that would trade $25 billion for the wall for permanent protections for undocumented immigrants brought to the country as kids. Trump dismissed that idea.
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:12 PM   #2227
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Allegedly trump asked Nancy if he opened the government tomorrow is there any chance for wall funding after. She said no. He said there is nothing left to discuss then

If he gives in he loses

If he is willing to accept lets say 3.5 billion instead of 5.7 billion it shows he can compromise. Chuck and Nancy think the best plan is to not compromise

The longer this goes on i think public support shifts to trump
Did Trump offer anything in exchange for the wall? I hear he's a great dealmaker.
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:12 PM   #2228
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They've offered much higher in the past

It's very reasonable
It's not though.

Why can't we just do the bill that unanimously passed the previous senate and passed the new house?

For this reason, I blame McConnell even more than Trump for this shutdown.
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:13 PM   #2229
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They've offered much higher in the past

It's very reasonable
In exchange for DACA. Are you cool with some money for the wall in exchange for DACA?
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:19 PM   #2230
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If we do DACA for Wall, I want citizenship. Instantly.

No half-measure that can be reneged on.
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:20 PM   #2231
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They've offered much higher in the past



It's very reasonable


Here is the stand the Dems should take


**** trump and **** his Nazi Memorial wall
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:27 PM   #2232
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In exchange for DACA. Are you cool with some money for the wall in exchange for DACA?
I loved the 25 billion for pathway for daca deal, yes
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:27 PM   #2233
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so suzzer is already trying to re-hash a stupid discussion and metsandfins is back

great
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:28 PM   #2234
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Mets, dude, what are you doing?
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:30 PM   #2235
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I loved the 25 billion for pathway for daca deal, yes
25 billion? I thought it was 5.7 billion?

(Really I thought it was zero because Mexico)
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:32 PM   #2236
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If we do DACA for Wall, I want citizenship. Instantly.

No half-measure that can be reneged on.
Immediate citizenship would never pass the senate

Pathway with real attainable pathways is fair.
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:34 PM   #2237
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(Last 3 years) trump: and WHO'S gonna pay for the wall??

Mets: MEXICO! **** MEXICO I HATE MEXICO
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:34 PM   #2238
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25 billion? I thought it was 5.7 billion?

(Really I thought it was zero because Mexico)
The daca deal was for 25 billion. The dems mostly agreed to it. Even i blame trump for blowing that by insisting on end of chain migration and Visa lottery to be added to it.
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:34 PM   #2239
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Me: I will give you $20,000 for this brand new car
Donny the Mobster Car Salesman: No, instead you will give me $5,000 and I won’t kill your family
Me: runs to the police station
Mets, the Donny the Mobster Apologist Who Totally Doesn’t Support Donny:Pwn is so unreasonable!!!!! He offered to give Donny $20,000 and now he is trying to get Donny in trouble with the police just for asking for $5,000. Gosh, can you believe it? This is why I hate liberals!!!!
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:35 PM   #2240
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I loved the 25 billion for pathway for daca deal, yes
Well Trump didn't. So whose fault is that? Democrats?
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:37 PM   #2241
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lol@ "would never pass the Senate".
Dems have to give Republicans what they like, but Repbublicans won't be able to give Dems what they like, because reasons.

Also, tha Democrats can not negotiate before the shutdown has ended. Everything else is not a negotiation, but a hostage situation by dealmaker no.1.
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:39 PM   #2242
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https://www-wtsp-com.cdn.ampproject....2F67-519361171

I blame trump for this not happening

But my point is the dems offered 25 billion for a wall 1 year ago. So saying 5 billion is unreasonable is silly
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:40 PM   #2243
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Trump was ready to sign the spending bill until Ann Coulter called him out. He could have been wheeling and dealing that whole time. Instead he decided to take hostages. He did this to himself.

It's obvious he doesn't give a flying crap about the wall personally.
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Well Trump didn't. So whose fault is that? Democrats?
Trump did like it. The far right didn't and trump stupidly caved
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:42 PM   #2245
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The far right is Trump's base. They're also the ones causing this shutdown.

Seems like Ol' Donnie's got himself in a quite a pickle this time.

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Old 01-09-2019, 07:45 PM   #2246
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Trump did like it. The far right didn't and trump stupidly caved
lol what a beta cuck
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:48 PM   #2247
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https://www-wtsp-com.cdn.ampproject....2F67-519361171

I blame trump for this not happening

But my point is the dems offered 25 billion for a wall 1 year ago. So saying 5 billion is unreasonable is silly
For being such a great deal maker he seemed to screw the pooch, huh?

He had all the leverage and didn’t make a deal that gave him what he wanted because a few extremists weren’t happy so instead he waits til he has no leverage to renegotiate?

Now he may have to offer what he offered before just to get a quarter of what he would’ve gotten before—either that or he gets nothing
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:56 PM   #2248
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The daca deal was for 25 billion. The dems mostly agreed to it. Even i blame trump for blowing that by insisting on end of chain migration and Visa lottery to be added to it.
Always hilarious when racists get rustled by an immigration program they designed to be racist, but now that it's getting used by brown people, it has to be ended.
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:56 PM   #2249
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Allegedly trump asked Nancy if he opened the government tomorrow is there any chance for wall funding after. She said no. He said there is nothing left to discuss then

If he gives in he loses

If he is willing to accept lets say 3.5 billion instead of 5.7 billion it shows he can compromise. Chuck and Nancy think the best plan is to not compromise

The longer this goes on i think public support shifts to trump
Thats Trumps version and nobody elses. Nobody is surprised youre sucking on his bootheels
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Old 01-09-2019, 07:58 PM   #2250
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"I am taking your family hostage. I will free them for $100 million"

"No, but what about $50 million?"

"Okay, deal! This shows I am a reasonable person capable of compromise. Also public support would have shifted towards me the longer I held your family hostage."

- what POGgers actually believe
Please never lump me in with the pile of human feces that is metsandfinsfan again
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