The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter - Page 88 - Politics and Economics

The NYT wants Trump to get reelected. They present an outward showing of being the leftie, anti-Trump paper. But that reputation can only last if Trump is in power. So they need him to win to retain subscribers.

CNN, MSNBC, WaPo are all the same way. They need Trump in office to keep their high ratings and subscribers.

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Originally Posted by dth123451

Nah, they all hate him, they’ve just been successfully bullied.

They are all owned by rich people or giant corporations. MSNBC is owned by a $160B company ffs.

All the liberals want diversity and want to stop bashing on immigrants and women to have power and stuff like that, but they want deregulation and tax cuts as well. Profits from higher sales and ratings too obv.

Yeah, they probably prefer HRC to Trump, but no way in hell they prefer Bernie or anyone like that to Trump.

01-09-2019 , 04:29 PM

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fatkid

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How did I not know about this?

01-09-2019 , 04:35 PM

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realDonaldTrump

WITCH HUNT!

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01-09-2019 , 04:40 PM

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biggerboat

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Took his wall and went home

01-09-2019 , 04:41 PM

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Leading to the 16 election, NYT had a big giant headline of no link between russia and trump and every TV network was non stop hillary e-mails coverage.

This narrative of they preferred HRC over Trump is just ridiculous when given the evidence.

Damn the lying free money wasn't available at least to me--THANKS OBAMA.

01-09-2019 , 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gregorio

I wonder if any of these 800,000 have other people relying on their income, or are they all single without kids?

I agree with this as well - they are using way to limited scope of "directly." I was just trying to point out that even under their limited definition - i.e. employees missing paychecks - they were still being under-inclusive.

01-09-2019 , 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by biggerboat

Took his wall and went home

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01-09-2019 , 04:44 PM

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01-09-2019 , 04:45 PM

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the best negotiator

01-09-2019 , 04:46 PM

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suzzer99

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Best one yet.

01-09-2019 , 04:46 PM

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I seriously don't see how this shutdown ends.

01-09-2019 , 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by fatkid

How did I not know about this?

"Bookmaker.eu asked people to wager on the president's truthfulness, offering odds of -145 for more than 3.5 lies"

My god, that was free money.

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

I seriously don't see how this shutdown ends.

The only way it happens is if enough Senate Rs force McConnell's hand and they pass a veto-proof funding bill.

01-09-2019 , 04:50 PM

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suzzer99

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

I seriously don't see how this shutdown ends.

ICE and Border Patrol aren't getting paychecks right? That would seem to put a cap on things.

01-09-2019 , 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

I seriously don't see how this shutdown ends.

If things get bad enough here, Mexico will have to build a wall to keep us from coming over. Trump three steps ahead imo.

01-09-2019 , 04:55 PM

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I seriously don't see how this shutdown ends.

My hot take:

The number of stories about fed workers living paycheck to paycheck having their lives seriously ****ed up as a result of this shutdown is only going to increase, and will do so exponentially once actual paychecks start getting missed (I think Friday is the first one). Pressure will build to reopen the government, and the side people are going to blame is the one saying "you can't have a paycheck until we get a wall". They will cave, starting with GOP senators like Murkowski and ending with Trump capitulating to them after the House and Senate both vote on and pass a clean CR.

01-09-2019 , 04:58 PM

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My guess is that Trump gets what he wants and comes out of this looking like a hero.

01-09-2019 , 04:59 PM

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Pelosi's doing an excellent job needling Trump so far.

01-09-2019 , 04:59 PM

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Yeah, it won't take much to get a few senators to cross over, then it's just a matter of finding a way to work around turtle to get the vote on the floor. It wouldn't surprise me if they're already orchestrating a way to strategically pick the defectors so the Senate can pass the damn thing. Then Trump literally doesn't have a scapegoat left so he has to sign.

01-09-2019 , 05:01 PM

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Nah. He will get nothing and declare victory like always.

01-09-2019 , 05:03 PM

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Poisoning the citizenry to pwn the libs

01-09-2019 , 05:05 PM

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The other possibility is that they keep fuzzily "finding money" to pay for stuff and plug the leakiest holes, like they already have with tax refunds and food stamps supposedly. It wouldn't surprise me if it wound up in this dumb quasi-shutdown state where people are mostly getting paid and technically nothing's running but it sorta is, and just stays that way for another two years to cap off the most dysfunctional administration ever.

01-09-2019 , 05:12 PM

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Does the dude who makes corn dogs in the White House kitchen count as an "essential" employee? If not, dems may have a Trump card in these negotiations.

01-09-2019 , 05:13 PM

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If they keep finding ways to mitigate the pain of the shutdown then it'll be like that Star Trek episode. Two planets were at war but they decided to settle it by computers and have people walk into disintegration chambers instead of fighting battles and bombing each other. Because the effects of the war weren't that bad and neither side wanted to give in, the war went on for 200 years.

01-09-2019 , 05:18 PM

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Eventually turtle caves and allows a vote right? Trump "wins" if he vetos and R's overturn it.. would they though? Do they have any standing to vote against/not overturn a veto on the exact same bill they all voted for 2 weeks ago?