"they said, 'don't electrify it', so i said fine, we'll just cover the barbed wire with poison. i can work with anybody, we are making a deal."

How do you negotiate with someone who isn't negotiating?

i'm confused why people are throwing out these hypothetical trade situations for the wall like it's a one time cost

the maintenance cost on an annual basis is expected to far exceed the initial cost of building it

The wall's never getting built, so tossing Trump $5 billion to shut him up is pretty much just agreeing to light the money on fire in exchange for whatever they get him to agree to trade for it.

I mean, if they continue to use those methods and it continues to result in liberal solutions that greatly benefit the lives a million ppl, then welll...Im good.

A moat w fricken sharks would totally kick ass. USA!

Uh you don’t. Hint: he’s lying.

Anyone proposed a wall made of illegal immigrant bones? Feel this would be a hit.

With a relief of Trump's face embedded in it like a gargoyle.

Talking point: $5B for a firewall on the Russian border

I don’t pay as much attention as I probably should at this point, but has mr promises made promises kept delivered on a single thing he campaigned on? Because for the life of me I can’t name one thing

Muslim ban. He also probably campaigned on cutting taxes, although no particular instance stands out in my memory.

He made noises about hiking them on them on the rich at times, part of how he stood out during the primary IIRC. People are wasting their time trying to reconcile his tenure with his campaign.

Thread 2 is full blown AIDS, should excise it and unlock first thread. Finally got through like 800 post on dumb hypothetical deals.

Meh, I think he campaigned on being a deplorable piece of **** and tickling the lizard brains of America's most hateful people with obvious lies and fantasies. If you took Trump "seriously not literally" during the campaign, you got exactly what you bargained for, which is to say that Trump the candidate is the same as Trump the President. This is why his approval never falls. They liked the guy they saw on the campaign, and he continues to deliver on his core promise, which is being that guy.

Seemed pretty relevant since the midterm was basically a Rump campaign DLC and 2020 is gonna be the official sequel

In addition to all the points rep and clovisjehovis have already made wrt DACA currently being upheld in courts, the greater importance of symbolism, and the fact that negotiations rely on good faith for Rs to follow thru (lol) - do you ****ing idiots not understand the importance of needing to deny Dump this win? Do you guys not understand that if he gets this signature wall it will rile the **** out of his base to come out in 2020 and suppress dem votes (count me in)?

We already lost in 2016 to this orange cretin we cant take 2020 for granted. Get a hold of yourselves. Pull yourselves together for ****s sake. Deep down I feel like guys like wichita want that wall or dont care about the symbolism it represents.

We cannot negotiate with terrorists because of the nasty precedent it sets. Shame on you guys. Suzzer I want you to self ban yourself for 3 days to think about what you are advocating

Ya when one side wins it’s in the form of a compromise, when the other side wins it’s always a unilateral victory

That dynamic needs to change

He said he would nominate scotus justices from a list of 20+ and has followed through on that.

And he is massively deregulating.

Sure, he did. One of those fantasies was hiking taxes on the rich, is all I'm saying.

And people in the future will be wasting their time trying to reconcile his future campaign with his tenure. Or maybe "trying to expose the contradictions between" makes it clearer than "trying to reconcile".

This idiot brings up the electoral college vote on a daily basis but still says 306-223. JFC

Will you settle for ill-tempered sea bass?