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Old 04-21-2019, 02:55 PM   #14901
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter

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Your characterization is reasonable from your point of view as a Trump "antagonist". Barr's position is reasonable from the point of view of the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the land.



Barr didn't interfere with Mueller and let him do what he wanted. Mueller's mandate was to examine tampering by foreign nationals with the 2016 election and if any of it was actionable legally.



Mueller found:



“[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities,” the report said, while also saying there were "links" between the two.



“While the investigation identified numerous links between individuals with ties to the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump Campaign, the evidence was not sufficient to support criminal charges. Among other things, the evidence was not sufficient to charge any Campaign official as an unregistered agent of the Russian government or other Russian principal,” the special counsel report stated.



That is pretty straight forward. I know Rachel Maddow and Clap(per) and Adam Shiftless led you on for two years to engage in Onanism over the impending doom of Orangeman..... but the evidence just wasn't there no matter how many tax evaders were put in solitary confinement and how many proctological exams were done. Sorry.



Prosecutors indict when they find what they believe is a reasonable case and Mr. Mueller chose not to take any action to ANY American on the subject of colluding with the Russians. Period.



The Justice Department isn't in the business of finding people innocent.... that's not how the system works.



As to obstruction, I don't believe that was part of Mueller's mandate but he saw fit to write a nice political document. Great. Adam Shiftless and Jerrold (Jabba the Hutt) Nadler, et all can do what they please with that and I hope they take the ball and run like hell with it.



However the US Attorney General and case law (as pointed out by Dershowitz) argue a sitting President while operating under his Constitutional authority can hire and fire whoever he pleases whenever he pleases. There was no underlying crime firing Comey or screaming from the rafters at Mueller,so no obstruction.... sorry.



Now the house may bend and bastardize the Impeachment Clause any way the care to:



. “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors”.



I hope to God they do......


You. Like Barr. Also left off the beginning of the first sentence.

It’s starts out with “although”
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Old 04-21-2019, 03:17 PM   #14902
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Btw np, you're good, but you're still tipping off you're not a native English speaker with all the ellipses.... We dont use them like that.... I know you don't care.... But enjoy your money.... Hopefully the gangs in Belarus won't murder you.

LOL Inspector Clouseau..... Bronx, NY, 'Murica.

You are right on top of your game today!!!!

PS.... I was the guy Cohen met with in Prague :-)
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Old 04-21-2019, 03:20 PM   #14903
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Has the trumpbot decided to boycott the thread?
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Old 04-21-2019, 03:23 PM   #14904
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Has the trumpbot decided to boycott the thread?
This forum is about to close. The politics forum is moving here: http://exiledpolitics.freeforums.net/

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Old 04-21-2019, 04:15 PM   #14905
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Old 04-21-2019, 04:28 PM   #14906
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just save the link to this forum. when we close forums, they don't actually get deleted, usually.
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Old 04-21-2019, 05:56 PM   #14907
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This one is still closing?
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Old 04-21-2019, 06:18 PM   #14908
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This one is still closing?
If closing means attempting to get as much of the traffic to post elsewhere as possible, then yes.
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Old 04-21-2019, 06:27 PM   #14909
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Old 04-22-2019, 04:50 AM   #14910
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter

From the comments I’ve read, it looks like poker players should stick to poker (and maybe learn a little English grammar). Just sayin’.....
However, I do enjoy poker players talking politics at the table. It greatly enhances the enjoyment of targeting!
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Old 04-22-2019, 07:11 AM   #14911
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From the comment I've read, it looks like cutterC should stick to not posting.
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Old 04-22-2019, 08:29 AM   #14912
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From the comments I’ve read, it looks like poker players should stick to poker (and maybe learn a little English grammar). Just sayin’.....
However, I do enjoy poker players talking politics at the table. It greatly enhances the enjoyment of targeting!
You can tilt almost every old nit at the Isle Casino in Pompano Beach by just mentioning his name...... seriously!
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:38 AM   #14913
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:43 AM   #14914
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I think a more astute observation is that those douchebags don't seem to be where they belong either.
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Old 04-22-2019, 02:42 PM   #14915
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Did the Trumpbot die too? Would be funny to see this thread keep going with just the bot posting to itself.
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Old 04-22-2019, 03:44 PM   #14916
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Goofy took it offline because that's his way of showing displeasure toward Mat.
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Old 04-22-2019, 03:55 PM   #14917
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...because otherwise it might keep people posting here in response to it. I don't think Mat cares if the bot is here or not.
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Old 04-22-2019, 04:04 PM   #14918
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But the dystopian vision of only the bot posting here is pretty entertaining, so it's sad to lose out on that :P
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Old 04-22-2019, 05:44 PM   #14919
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Didn't read much of this thread, but I'm wondering if people and american media are still losing time with memes that some russian bots made and the sex scandals of the president and ignoring the possible new deals made with Saudi Arabia. Continuing the great Bush and Clinton tradition of dealing with the greatest sponsors of terrorism and chaos in the middle east. But money talks, since those guys are richer than Buffet, Gates and Bezos combined.

Trump what a disapointment... No online poker in the land of the free again (for my ignorant selfish reasons) and continuing making deals with Saudi Arabia in foreign policy in the present and future.

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Old Today, 05:48 AM   #14920
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You only think you’re free.
Are you renting your house from the government? It’s called property taxes (a nice way of saying it).
Can you roll through a stop sign?
Can you go over the speed limit?
Must you wear a seatbelt?
Can you smoke a natural weed product?
Can you make your own alcohol?
Can you _______
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Old Today, 05:14 PM   #14921
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter

if the house does impeach, can Cocaine Mitch just delay the trial indefinitely or is that beyond his control?
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Old Today, 05:26 PM   #14922
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if the house does impeach, can Cocaine Mitch just delay the trial indefinitely or is that beyond his control?
This is a question I hope we don't have to see answered--not in a legal sense because it's supposed to trigger an automatic trial in the senate; but like who's gonna do anything if he simply doesn't. My guess he'll do it because simply he thinks it'll cost dems in the next election as it did R's in 98 (though they won everything in 00 anyway).
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Old Today, 06:05 PM   #14923
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I think the "an impeachment/trial will hurt the opposition party because that's what happened 20 years ago" theory is lolbad. For clinton, all that came out is that he got a few bjs in the oval office (and obviously that was all out in the open well before the actual impeachment), which even by late-90s moralistic standards wasn't that big of a deal (clearly we're more sophisticated about calling out power imbalances etc now).

In trump's case, there are some actual crimes going on here, plus who knows what sort of keystone cops incompetence will come out.

Clearly Trump actually being removed by senate republicans is a huge longshot, but getting this **** on TV constantly for months will have negative effects. Plus there's always that possibility that a huge bombshell drops and republicans actually have to cut him loose.
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