Also the Bronx was burning, NYC was a graffiti-covered hellscape, the Hollywood sign was falling down, ****ty-ass astroturf stadiums with zero character went up everywhere, American cars were lucky to last 80k miles, every new building was some horribly ugly brutalist nightmare that literally scratched you if you touched it.

Paul McCartney released "Wonderful Christmastime".

It's like we just gave up on everything.

Well Scott Walker wasn't able to stop himself from losing his only election since 1991, even with the legislature and the judiciary on his side. And Rick Snyder couldn't either. GA is screwed though. And probably FL too. I really think there's a decent chance at 269-269.

Trump, even if he loses, probably won't step down gracefully.

Nobody aside from politics nerds really cares about Mueller and Russian collusion. The polls show it doesn't connect well with voters because it doesn't have a tangible effect on their lives like health care and taxes do.

Impeachment will bring every deplorable out of the woodwork to vote while not upping turnout for the Dems.

The only possible upside of 4 more years of Trump is that while it's easy for a sitting president to get re-elected - it seems like everyone is sick of them by year 6. Bush II lost a massive landslide in the year-6 midterms - and the economic crisis hadn't even started yet. People were just sick of seeing his face.

If Trump gets voted out, he retires to the sweet grift still super popular among his base. If he gets re-elected - yes he destroys the country - BUT, even the base will get kind of sick of him by year 6. So we have that going for us.

Yes dnc and that is not the logical extension of my argument that’s the Reductio ad Absurdum version of it. Of course they play a role, it’s just not suppose to be their primary goal.

Russia's going to go ham interfering wherever they can.

What Bob said.

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Yup... and Israel... and Saudi Arabia... and God knows who else.

No question I fully expect Russia to be openly involved in collusion to an even greater degree than they were in 2016.

Do you think China will also ? They would be better off without Trump I think

Whitewater ended up as a sex scandal and BJ. People didn't give a **** about that.

Dems need to put Trump on trial and keep him there until the next election. Keep him occupied so he can't campaign. Reps put HClinton on trial for years with Bengazi bull**** to poison her name. Keep this **** in the news. Trump is going to get his 35-40% diehards. Make the bubble voter swallow REAL hard. It's

Dems are so weak they won't take the road even when it's laid out for them. Mueller smacked them across the face, telling them it's their Constitutional job, and they will still decline. If the Dems don't make their case, low information voters will figure there was no case to be made.

And Nixon, from the party of financial prudence, decided to pass the buck on dealing with inflation and left it to Carter/Volcker to raise the interest rates and take the temporary hit in order to get things under control.

What kind of content do you think Fox and Breitbart will be running during the election if there isn't an impeachment? I would guess that it's nonstop coverage of whatever Emails 2.0 turns out to be.

**** they'll still roll with emails 1.0.

There's a fundamental difference between the parties though, I don't know if Dems can win by just employing the same tactics that Rs do.

Like, consider that a statement like "parties should come together and work out bipartisan solutions" probably has mainstream agreement in the Democratic Party, and like 1,000 people in the Republican Party who agree (and all live in suburban DC). Poisoning HRC worked because there was a ready audience for that stuff, but Trump is already radioactive to non-CHUDs, a little more poison isn't going to push them over the edge.

Just curious if any old school politards know how Obummer was polling in Spring 2010 against various GOP contenders, cuz Trump consistently trails the Democrat right now by 3-7 points depending on who it is.

https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/st...85130763259919

They'll be covering the investigation into the Democratic nominee for whatever Trump tells Barr to investigate him or her for, as well as accusing AOC of wanting to slaughter all of the cows.

I don't remember, but I don't think the polling matters much yet. I fully expect the Democratic nominee to lead Trump handily once the primary is wrapped up... I'm worried about voter suppression, the aforementioned bogus investigation, and collusion 2.0.

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I looked up 2011 to better compare with where we are in the current presidency:
"Republican Candidate" Extends Lead vs. Obama to 47% to 39% - 7/14/11

"Generic" Republican Continues to Lead Obama in 2012 Vote
Lead is 46% to 38% among registered voters - 10/14/11

"I chose not to."

More like Don McGahn chose not to.

lol imagine quoting jesse watters when trying to make a serious point

So basically Trump is losing by less now than Obama was at this point in his presidency? I may need to rethink my last post...

Mr. President, you're the greatest president we've ever had. Best ever. Way better than Vernon. You've never obstructed or colluded and that's why we all love you, and we all know your real approval rating is 99% and the other 1% are just haters and losers who don't appreciate your stunning good looks and always presidential behavior. The only thing I wish is that you would tweet a little more. Enjoy your second term! MAGA!

PS. - Please don't throw me in jail or kill me during your second all-powerful term for all the things I said about you before. I promise that when they get me at some anti-you protest, I'll have been there undercover trying to catch all the bad liberals who hate you for no reason. Just re-read this post if you think about jailing me, and it'll all be okay.