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04-16-2019 , 11:30 PM
I cannot wait for the sanders v trump debates
04-16-2019 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
Trump vetoed the resolution to end support to Saudi Arabia in the Yemen war, what an ever-loving piece of ****.
This was the first time Congress invoked the War Powers Act to end a conflict.
04-17-2019 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Nah it's not bad in Spain. I lived there for 3 years. Catalonian independence stuff flares up once a year and ETA is no longer a thing. Not to say that there is no racism. There is. But they aren't locking people in cages and separating families.

Greece is ****ty for a whole lot of reasons. When I visited Athens, the government was looking to lay off a bunch of firefighters and there was a major protest about it. I mean when you're basically saying, "We're so low on money that we'd rather let our buildings go down in flames, you're ****ed." The street I stayed on in Athens had a couple of heroin junkies who hung around the area and went to the city park at night to shoot up. The refugee crisis was a thing when I was in Crete and a few residents who I chatted with there were bitching about it. Pretty much frustrated about their country having enough problems already and now they have to deal with refugees who are only there because of America.

My time spent in France was with a French-Moroccan and French-Algerian couple. They were totally awesome and my interactions with them and their friends was totally different from your typical French person. I definitely noticed a share of casual racism though. This was likely amped up by the fact that I had arrived the day of the attack at Orly Airport. When I first got to Paris, I had to wait for my AirBnB hosts to show up at a cafe across the street from them. I had a conversation of broken French/broken English with a table of Frenchmen and they jokingly claimed that I was a member of ISIS due to the enormous beard I had at the time. They made sure to refer to the group by its derogatory name, Daesh. I knew it was in jest but I'm sure that people making those jokes likely share anti-Islam sentiment.

The places where racism and nationalism were most clear were in Central and Eastern Europe. At least it was subtle in the west. It was looks, an off-color joke and the like. On the opposite side of the Iron Curtain, the people I interacted with in Poland and Hungary were pretty loud and clear and weren't the joking kind. Hearing about the **** my AirBnB host in Warsaw had to deal with as a gay man was pretty depressing. There is a significant correlation between high degrees of racism and a low percentage of foreign-born population in a country.

Here's a link to maps related to racism in Europe

https://www.boredpanda.com/racism-in...ap-bezzleford/ (Source - Discrimination in the EU in 2015)

The most racist countries out of that group (Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Bulgaria) have foreign-born population percentages of 4%, 3.3%, and 1.2% respectively as of 2015. The least racist (Sweden, Luxembourg, The Netherlands) have foreign-born population percentages of 18.5%, 43.3%, and 11.1%.

You can't really say that those countries aren't as bad as America because they don't cage immigrants and separate their children from their families. They don't have the means to effectively do it. The question is would they do it if they could. I have no doubts that a lot of people in Central and Eastern Europe would have no issue with caging refugees and separating them from their parents.
Spot on SuB

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Originally Posted by TheHip41
I cannot wait for the sanders v trump debates
That's prime TV that.
04-17-2019 , 12:27 AM

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04-17-2019 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
Thursday’s report is just going to really upset me and for my own mental health I need to check out for a while. I fought hard and I know this is what they want, but I can’t do it anymore. I won’t be following the thread for a while and appreciate everything everyone’s done here the last few years.

The complete and total destruction of our democracy is appalling to me. What constantly gets me is how little other people are aware of and how little they care.

It’ll take some big disaster to wake people up. If the economy were bad there’d be riots in the streets (i’d hope). That’s what really saddens me about this country. The awvals of the world being totally okay genociding some browns as long as they get a few extra bucks a paycheck. Or the inso’s of the world that seem to take genuine delight in it as long as it upsets the soyboy cucks. It seriously makes me nauseous to think about the scope of it and how many genuinely ****ty people exist in this country.

So, sorry. It’ll hopefully just be a month or two but I honestly don’t know.

In closing, get ****ed awval and inso and anyone else that voted for this clown. Burn in hell forever and I truly mean it.
I enjoy your postings and what you bring to this thread. We hope to see you back soon.
04-17-2019 , 01:50 AM
I was hoping that the one bright light with a Trump presidency was going to be some stellar knicknames and put downs but he seems to have topped out at making fun of Jeb Bush. 'Crazy Bernie'?'Sleepy Joe'?
04-17-2019 , 02:05 AM
Yeah he's losing his edge.
04-17-2019 , 02:09 AM
my favorite trump nickname is "Nancy"
04-17-2019 , 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
I cannot wait for the sanders v trump debates
Pence Buttigieg VP debate would also be great.
04-17-2019 , 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
I was hoping that the one bright light with a Trump presidency was going to be some stellar knicknames and put downs but he seems to have topped out at making fun of Jeb Bush. 'Crazy Bernie'?'Sleepy Joe'?
I like Sleepy Joe.
04-17-2019 , 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by smacc25
Spot on SuB
I should clarify that the AirBnB host was talking about his experiences in Warsaw as gay man. I wasn't the gay guy empathizing. Might have been some confusion there.

I'd probably correct my students on a mistake like that despite unironically making it myself. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter
04-17-2019 , 07:35 AM

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04-17-2019 , 07:45 AM

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04-17-2019 , 08:01 AM
Great post Bob, and a link that's worth bookmarking.

With family in Czechia and as a frequent visitor there I can confirm what's been said about parts of Eastern Europe.

Anecdotally even I, as an obviously British-looking white guy, got jostled badly by three Czechs during a Pearl Jam gig in Prague twenty years ago (which has never happened elsewhere), so god knows what happens to black tourists there.
04-17-2019 , 08:24 AM
Trump is annoyed that Fox talked about someone other than himself.

Fox meanwhile is just like: Dems on Fox = ratings = money.
04-17-2019 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by formula72
Greek Octupus is a delicacy.
Greek tragedy is tragic

Last edited by Namath12; 04-17-2019 at 08:31 AM. Reason: also Greek debt
04-17-2019 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Which makes sense as long as Barr isn't withholding important information from the Congress. Why would Mueller and his entire team (many who are Democrats) let Barr get away with withholding his investigation's important findings from the public and the Congress?
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What about the many Democrats on Mueller's team?
Because in Keeed's world the report is just sitting on the F: drive of the Special Counsel's network, ready for any member of the team to just copy and paste up on Usenet or some ****.

Also worth noting is that any member of the team who leaks something unauthorized will probably face a host of federal charges brought by Barr, and most likely also be disbarred.
04-17-2019 , 11:07 AM
Which ones are the Democrats on Mueller's team? And why does that matter?
04-17-2019 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
The claim that Troll Trollson guy was making was that Trump's administration is the Vichy government of Putin. That is, that Trump is a literal puppet of the Russians, as the Vichy government was of the Nazis. Even if what you claim is true it does nothing to establish that Putin is somehow controlling Trump. Saying that Trump is a literal puppet of Putin is absolutely a wholly unsupported conspiracy theory.
Can you please explain why literally everyone on the Trump campaign and the Trump administration has lied about their contacts with Russia. Literally everyone.
04-17-2019 , 11:10 AM
I think according to Trump they're all dems including Mueller, otherwise why would they be investigating him?
04-17-2019 , 11:16 AM
So can we ignore Barr since he’s not only a Republican but also picked by Trump?

Oh never mind
04-17-2019 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
Because in Keeed's world the report is just sitting on the F: drive of the Special Counsel's network, ready for any member of the team to just copy and paste up on Usenet or some ****.

Also worth noting is that any member of the team who leaks something unauthorized will probably face a host of federal charges brought by Barr, and most likely also be disbarred.
They could leak it to the Times or the Post and ask for anonymity. And you don't think any of these guys made personal copies of the report for themselves for just this sort of scenario, to prevent whitewashing by the Trump administration? Not too hard to make a copy on a SIM card or something, Snowden did it at the NSA ffs.

And even if no one on the Mueller team has made such a copy for insurance against whitewashing (which, come on) they could still go to the Times and say that this section is improperly redacted, this is what it says, this is what Barr is trying to hide. It would be easy and their anonymity would be protected.
04-17-2019 , 11:26 AM
Then keed would be talking about the accuracy of anonymous comments for days on end.
04-17-2019 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Which ones are the Democrats on Mueller's team? And why does that matter?
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Trump has complained that the team is made up of "some very bad and conflicted people" because 13 of them are registered Democrats, and several have made donations to Democratic candidates. Justice Department officials, however, are not supposed to ask about employees' political affiliations. Department policy prohibits "using political affiliation and may also prohibit using certain ideological affiliations in hiring and taking other personnel actions with regard to career attorneys," according to the department’s inspector general.
So 13 of the 17 lawyers on Mueller's team are Democrats? Which, I don't know, I'm not sure why they'd be in on Mueller's plot to undermine the Mueller investigation. I guess this conspiracy goes pretty damn deep.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...ocrats-n976226
04-17-2019 , 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
So can we ignore Barr since he’s not only a Republican but also picked by Trump?

Oh never mind
The only reason to even mention the party affiliation of anyone involved in any investigation of a politician is to de-legitimize anything damaging that's uncovered. Everyone knows this except Trumpkins. Actually many Trumpkins know it too but they won't admit it.

      
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