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Old 04-16-2019, 10:39 PM   #14426
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May god rest their soul? What? Is Trump going to kill the one who wins?

Also, LOL, he is def shook over how Sanders went over on that town hall.
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Old 04-16-2019, 10:42 PM   #14427
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:15 PM   #14428
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I was born in Europe. Go away with this derpy crap.

France has Le Pen and a ton of people who wanna shackle Muslims.
Greece has Golden Dawn and were having fabulous street fights not long ago.
Spain really has some ****ed up **** that has gone on forever with the Basque. Catalonias want to gtfo for whatever reason.

In general Europe has a lot of bad nationalist bull**** going on atm that people gloss over with rose-goggled glasses.
Nah it's not bad in Spain. I lived there for 3 years. Catalonian independence stuff flares up once a year and ETA is no longer a thing. Not to say that there is no racism. There is. But they aren't locking people in cages and separating families.

Greece is ****ty for a whole lot of reasons. When I visited Athens, the government was looking to lay off a bunch of firefighters and there was a major protest about it. I mean when you're basically saying, "We're so low on money that we'd rather let our buildings go down in flames, you're ****ed." The street I stayed on in Athens had a couple of heroin junkies who hung around the area and went to the city park at night to shoot up. The refugee crisis was a thing when I was in Crete and a few residents who I chatted with there were bitching about it. Pretty much frustrated about their country having enough problems already and now they have to deal with refugees who are only there because of America.

My time spent in France was with a French-Moroccan and French-Algerian couple. They were totally awesome and my interactions with them and their friends was totally different from your typical French person. I definitely noticed a share of casual racism though. This was likely amped up by the fact that I had arrived the day of the attack at Orly Airport. When I first got to Paris, I had to wait for my AirBnB hosts to show up at a cafe across the street from them. I had a conversation of broken French/broken English with a table of Frenchmen and they jokingly claimed that I was a member of ISIS due to the enormous beard I had at the time. They made sure to refer to the group by its derogatory name, Daesh. I knew it was in jest but I'm sure that people making those jokes likely share anti-Islam sentiment.

The places where racism and nationalism were most clear were in Central and Eastern Europe. At least it was subtle in the west. It was looks, an off-color joke and the like. On the opposite side of the Iron Curtain, the people I interacted with in Poland and Hungary were pretty loud and clear and weren't the joking kind. Hearing about the **** my AirBnB host in Warsaw had to deal with as a gay man was pretty depressing. There is a significant correlation between high degrees of racism and a low percentage of foreign-born population in a country.

Here's a link to maps related to racism in Europe

https://www.boredpanda.com/racism-in...ap-bezzleford/ (Source - Discrimination in the EU in 2015)

The most racist countries out of that group (Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Bulgaria) have foreign-born population percentages of 4%, 3.3%, and 1.2% respectively as of 2015. The least racist (Sweden, Luxembourg, The Netherlands) have foreign-born population percentages of 18.5%, 43.3%, and 11.1%.

You can't really say that those countries aren't as bad as America because they don't cage immigrants and separate their children from their families. They don't have the means to effectively do it. The question is would they do it if they could. I have no doubts that a lot of people in Central and Eastern Europe would have no issue with caging refugees and separating them from their parents.
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:30 PM   #14429
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I cannot wait for the sanders v trump debates
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Old 04-16-2019, 11:40 PM   #14430
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Trump vetoed the resolution to end support to Saudi Arabia in the Yemen war, what an ever-loving piece of ****.
This was the first time Congress invoked the War Powers Act to end a conflict.
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:11 AM   #14431
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Nah it's not bad in Spain. I lived there for 3 years. Catalonian independence stuff flares up once a year and ETA is no longer a thing. Not to say that there is no racism. There is. But they aren't locking people in cages and separating families.

Greece is ****ty for a whole lot of reasons. When I visited Athens, the government was looking to lay off a bunch of firefighters and there was a major protest about it. I mean when you're basically saying, "We're so low on money that we'd rather let our buildings go down in flames, you're ****ed." The street I stayed on in Athens had a couple of heroin junkies who hung around the area and went to the city park at night to shoot up. The refugee crisis was a thing when I was in Crete and a few residents who I chatted with there were bitching about it. Pretty much frustrated about their country having enough problems already and now they have to deal with refugees who are only there because of America.

My time spent in France was with a French-Moroccan and French-Algerian couple. They were totally awesome and my interactions with them and their friends was totally different from your typical French person. I definitely noticed a share of casual racism though. This was likely amped up by the fact that I had arrived the day of the attack at Orly Airport. When I first got to Paris, I had to wait for my AirBnB hosts to show up at a cafe across the street from them. I had a conversation of broken French/broken English with a table of Frenchmen and they jokingly claimed that I was a member of ISIS due to the enormous beard I had at the time. They made sure to refer to the group by its derogatory name, Daesh. I knew it was in jest but I'm sure that people making those jokes likely share anti-Islam sentiment.

The places where racism and nationalism were most clear were in Central and Eastern Europe. At least it was subtle in the west. It was looks, an off-color joke and the like. On the opposite side of the Iron Curtain, the people I interacted with in Poland and Hungary were pretty loud and clear and weren't the joking kind. Hearing about the **** my AirBnB host in Warsaw had to deal with as a gay man was pretty depressing. There is a significant correlation between high degrees of racism and a low percentage of foreign-born population in a country.

Here's a link to maps related to racism in Europe

https://www.boredpanda.com/racism-in...ap-bezzleford/ (Source - Discrimination in the EU in 2015)

The most racist countries out of that group (Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Bulgaria) have foreign-born population percentages of 4%, 3.3%, and 1.2% respectively as of 2015. The least racist (Sweden, Luxembourg, The Netherlands) have foreign-born population percentages of 18.5%, 43.3%, and 11.1%.

You can't really say that those countries aren't as bad as America because they don't cage immigrants and separate their children from their families. They don't have the means to effectively do it. The question is would they do it if they could. I have no doubts that a lot of people in Central and Eastern Europe would have no issue with caging refugees and separating them from their parents.
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That's prime TV that.
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:27 AM   #14432
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Old 04-17-2019, 12:39 AM   #14433
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Thursdayís report is just going to really upset me and for my own mental health I need to check out for a while. I fought hard and I know this is what they want, but I canít do it anymore. I wonít be following the thread for a while and appreciate everything everyoneís done here the last few years.

The complete and total destruction of our democracy is appalling to me. What constantly gets me is how little other people are aware of and how little they care.

Itíll take some big disaster to wake people up. If the economy were bad thereíd be riots in the streets (iíd hope). Thatís what really saddens me about this country. The awvals of the world being totally okay genociding some browns as long as they get a few extra bucks a paycheck. Or the insoís of the world that seem to take genuine delight in it as long as it upsets the soyboy cucks. It seriously makes me nauseous to think about the scope of it and how many genuinely ****ty people exist in this country.

So, sorry. Itíll hopefully just be a month or two but I honestly donít know.

In closing, get ****ed awval and inso and anyone else that voted for this clown. Burn in hell forever and I truly mean it.
I enjoy your postings and what you bring to this thread. We hope to see you back soon.
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Old 04-17-2019, 01:50 AM   #14434
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I was hoping that the one bright light with a Trump presidency was going to be some stellar knicknames and put downs but he seems to have topped out at making fun of Jeb Bush. 'Crazy Bernie'?'Sleepy Joe'?
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Old 04-17-2019, 02:05 AM   #14435
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Yeah he's losing his edge.
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Old 04-17-2019, 02:09 AM   #14436
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my favorite trump nickname is "Nancy"
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Old 04-17-2019, 03:19 AM   #14437
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I cannot wait for the sanders v trump debates
Pence Buttigieg VP debate would also be great.
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Old 04-17-2019, 06:13 AM   #14438
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I was hoping that the one bright light with a Trump presidency was going to be some stellar knicknames and put downs but he seems to have topped out at making fun of Jeb Bush. 'Crazy Bernie'?'Sleepy Joe'?
I like Sleepy Joe.
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Old 04-17-2019, 07:03 AM   #14439
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Spot on SuB
I should clarify that the AirBnB host was talking about his experiences in Warsaw as gay man. I wasn't the gay guy empathizing. Might have been some confusion there.

I'd probably correct my students on a mistake like that despite unironically making it myself. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter
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Old 04-17-2019, 08:01 AM   #14442
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Great post Bob, and a link that's worth bookmarking.

With family in Czechia and as a frequent visitor there I can confirm what's been said about parts of Eastern Europe.

Anecdotally even I, as an obviously British-looking white guy, got jostled badly by three Czechs during a Pearl Jam gig in Prague twenty years ago (which has never happened elsewhere), so god knows what happens to black tourists there.
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Old 04-17-2019, 08:24 AM   #14443
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Trump is annoyed that Fox talked about someone other than himself.

Fox meanwhile is just like: Dems on Fox = ratings = money.
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Old 04-17-2019, 08:31 AM   #14444
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Old 04-17-2019, 11:05 AM   #14445
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Which makes sense as long as Barr isn't withholding important information from the Congress. Why would Mueller and his entire team (many who are Democrats) let Barr get away with withholding his investigation's important findings from the public and the Congress?
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What about the many Democrats on Mueller's team?
Because in Keeed's world the report is just sitting on the F: drive of the Special Counsel's network, ready for any member of the team to just copy and paste up on Usenet or some ****.

Also worth noting is that any member of the team who leaks something unauthorized will probably face a host of federal charges brought by Barr, and most likely also be disbarred.
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Old 04-17-2019, 11:07 AM   #14446
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Which ones are the Democrats on Mueller's team? And why does that matter?
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Old 04-17-2019, 11:10 AM   #14447
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The claim that Troll Trollson guy was making was that Trump's administration is the Vichy government of Putin. That is, that Trump is a literal puppet of the Russians, as the Vichy government was of the Nazis. Even if what you claim is true it does nothing to establish that Putin is somehow controlling Trump. Saying that Trump is a literal puppet of Putin is absolutely a wholly unsupported conspiracy theory.
Can you please explain why literally everyone on the Trump campaign and the Trump administration has lied about their contacts with Russia. Literally everyone.
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Old 04-17-2019, 11:10 AM   #14448
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I think according to Trump they're all dems including Mueller, otherwise why would they be investigating him?
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Old 04-17-2019, 11:16 AM   #14449
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So can we ignore Barr since he’s not only a Republican but also picked by Trump?

Oh never mind
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Old 04-17-2019, 11:25 AM   #14450
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Because in Keeed's world the report is just sitting on the F: drive of the Special Counsel's network, ready for any member of the team to just copy and paste up on Usenet or some ****.

Also worth noting is that any member of the team who leaks something unauthorized will probably face a host of federal charges brought by Barr, and most likely also be disbarred.
They could leak it to the Times or the Post and ask for anonymity. And you don't think any of these guys made personal copies of the report for themselves for just this sort of scenario, to prevent whitewashing by the Trump administration? Not too hard to make a copy on a SIM card or something, Snowden did it at the NSA ffs.

And even if no one on the Mueller team has made such a copy for insurance against whitewashing (which, come on) they could still go to the Times and say that this section is improperly redacted, this is what it says, this is what Barr is trying to hide. It would be easy and their anonymity would be protected.
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