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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter

04-16-2019 , 03:48 PM
Barr’s daughter now on the Treasury Department’s financial crimes unit and his son-in-law on White House Counsel

It’s a family business trying to help protect Trump
04-16-2019 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
Golf’s a great game that has been enjoyed long, long before republicans/democrats or even the USA existed.
Yeah bro a few rounds might do you some benifit, alough I prefer a long walk.. Take it easy bro & remember to breath.. A timeout is needed to be able to put up with all this gaslighting and shenanigans. Take care.
04-16-2019 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
tldr;

I'm sure you're not taking my shots at golf as serious shots at you or other golfers. Of course I do think golf is particularly bad in a lot of ways and golfers generally annoying on average and I think it's incredibly boring, but to each their own.
No, of course not. There's a wide range of golfers depending where/when you play, and I find it a relaxing/fun activity to play and I get why people think it's boring to watch, but I guess once you play it, it's not.

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Originally Posted by Nonfiction
Unreal. I mean, nothing should surprise me, but THIS kind of does.

FWIW, I don't think Jones is a favorite to beat him again... but he's got a way better chance against him than anyone else.

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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Which makes sense as long as Barr isn't withholding important information from the Congress. Why would Mueller and his entire team (many who are Democrats) let Barr get away with withholding his investigation's important findings from the public and the Congress?
It's almost like the constant gaslighting is having an impact on the weak-minded and those who are otherwise susceptible.
04-16-2019 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Maybe Barr will redact a bunch of important stuff. I hope he does, it will be hilarious when the dacted report gets leaked to show what a bad faith job he did. Barr just doesn't strike me as a total moron so I doubt he will choose this course of action.
Im sure that will turn your posting roght around and youll suddenly be on team good guy
04-16-2019 , 05:15 PM


Really weird that Barr would have lied about the contents of a document in the past when it made him look so bad after the full document was realized.

Surely he must have paused to consider the incentives. Right keeed?
04-16-2019 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakin
Thursday’s report is just going to really upset me and for my own mental health I need to check out for a while. I fought hard and I know this is what they want, but I can’t do it anymore. I won’t be following the thread for a while and appreciate everything everyone’s done here the last few years.

The complete and total destruction of our democracy is appalling to me. What constantly gets me is how little other people are aware of and how little they care.

It’ll take some big disaster to wake people up. If the economy were bad there’d be riots in the streets (i’d hope). That’s what really saddens me about this country. The awvals of the world being totally okay genociding some browns as long as they get a few extra bucks a paycheck. Or the inso’s of the world that seem to take genuine delight in it as long as it upsets the soyboy cucks. It seriously makes me nauseous to think about the scope of it and how many genuinely ****ty people exist in this country.

So, sorry. It’ll hopefully just be a month or two but I honestly don’t know.

In closing, get ****ed awval and inso and anyone else that voted for this clown. Burn in hell forever and I truly mean it.
see ya thursday
04-16-2019 , 05:30 PM
Keeed done got chessmated.
04-16-2019 , 05:35 PM
lol keed. go away with your weak ****
04-16-2019 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by .Alex.


Really weird that Barr would have lied about the contents of a document in the past when it made him look so bad after the full document was realized.

Surely he must have paused to consider the incentives. Right keeed?
I'm sure he did. And he probably concluded that literally no one in the public gave a **** about this obscure summary and he could do whatever he wanted and 99.999% of the American population would have no idea what he did. He was probably right!

Redacting and releasing the report of one of the highest profile investigations in the history of the country seems to have a substantially different set of incentives. Particularly when many of the investigators who contributed to the report have every reason to hate Trump and could surely release dacted versions of the report if Barr redacts it inappropriately.
04-16-2019 , 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
I'm sure he did. And he probably concluded that literally no one in the public gave a **** about this obscure summary and he could do whatever he wanted and 99.999% of the American population would have no idea what he did. He was probably right!



Redacting and releasing the report of one of the highest profile investigations in the history of the country seems to have a substantially different set of incentives. Particularly when many of the investigators who contributed to the report have every reason to hate Trump and could surely release dacted versions of the report if Barr redacts it inappropriately.

He who is dishonest with very little will also be dishonest with much.
04-16-2019 , 05:40 PM
fyi, dacted isn't the opposite of redacted
04-16-2019 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by econophile
fyi, dacted isn't the opposite of redacted
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04-16-2019 , 05:59 PM
Election Day here in Alberta. We are going to turf an awesome slightly left of centre woman for a right wing male douche.

It’s not just America!
04-16-2019 , 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
I'm sure he did. And he probably concluded that literally no one in the public gave a **** about this obscure summary and he could do whatever he wanted
Guess what, largely the same set of incentives is in effect here.

Look at all the consequences Trump has faced for repeatedly lying to the public.
04-16-2019 , 06:40 PM

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04-16-2019 , 06:44 PM
I'm betting that plan for Colorado River is just dumping more water in via helicopters
04-16-2019 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by .Alex.
Guess what, largely the same set of incentives is in effect here.

Look at all the consequences Trump has faced for repeatedly lying to the public.
It's not about consequences anyone might face. The question is why Barr would release an inappropriately redacted version of the report when the likely result of that would be Mueller or his team leaking the inappropriately redacted parts. Why would Mueller and his team just sit by and let their work be misrepresented? It makes no sense.
04-16-2019 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
It's not about consequences anyone might face. The question is why Barr would release an inappropriately redacted version of the report when the likely result of that would be Mueller or his team leaking the inappropriately redacted parts. Why would Mueller and his team just sit by and let their work be misrepresented? It makes no sense.
Since when did that stop anyone?
04-16-2019 , 07:05 PM
I thought I was supposed to be the nihilist around here
04-16-2019 , 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
It's not about consequences anyone might face. The question is why Barr would release an inappropriately redacted version of the report when the likely result of that would be Mueller or his team leaking the inappropriately redacted parts. Why would Mueller and his team just sit by and let their work be misrepresented? It makes no sense.
Because he is a partisan hack POS who knows, as you do despite your raised by wolves gaslighting, that the media will thoughtlessly roll with whatever nonsense he leads with, giving Team Trump a massive PR head start and corresponding congressional immunity.

You’ve already been dog walked, take the L.
04-16-2019 , 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
I'm sure he did. And he probably concluded that literally no one in the public gave a **** about this obscure summary and he could do whatever he wanted and 99.999% of the American population would have no idea what he did. He was probably right!

Redacting and releasing the report of one of the highest profile investigations in the history of the country seems to have a substantially different set of incentives. Particularly when many of the investigators who contributed to the report have every reason to hate Trump and could surely release dacted versions of the report if Barr redacts it inappropriately.
Barr thinks the socialists, aka the Vietcong aka Bernie Sanders are coming to make us push around wheelbarrows full of useless inflated $100 bills to buy bread while women are being raped and men robbed at knife-point. It's not about him looking bad, Jesus Christ created the divine sperm and egg to make him AG for this very moment to help his team win and save the USA. He would jump on a grenade.

/SA
04-16-2019 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dth123451
Because he is a partisan hack POS who knows, as you do despite your raised by wolves gaslighting, that the media will thoughtlessly roll with whatever nonsense he leads with, giving Team Trump a massive PR head start and corresponding congressional immunity.

You’ve already been dog walked, take the L.
This.

1. Barr releases a letter misrepresenting the report, but it creates headlines that Trump has been exonerated. Congressional Republicans can always fall back on this.

2. Barr delays the release of more info for as long as possible.

(We're here now.)

3. Barr releases something heavily redacted, and the public still doesn't have a clear picture. We're hit over the head again with #1.

4. Dems subpoena, it goes to court, etc... Trump hits them over the head with #1 and calls this a partisan witch hunt, etc, etc.

5. It doesn't matter what #5 is. If it doesn't come out, Trump wins. If it comes out, the narrative of #1 has already played for so long that the entire right wing base and a good chunk of low information infrequent voters (who need to be turned into angry voters to hold these people accountable) will already be treating the "totally exonerated" storyline as total fact. Congressional Republicans can fall back on that and protect Trump, and they will. Nothing matters.

Nothing matters.

Barr and Trump already won, it's just a matter of how it plays out from here and whether Dems can win in 2020. That's the only way Trump is getting removed from office. Even that's not 100% to remove him at this point, but that's (hopefully not) a problem for January of 2021.
04-16-2019 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Soulman
Uhm parts of Scandinavia are for all intents and purposes pretty much made up of heathens now. We're doing just fine, thank you very much.
I'm jealous. I meant the US-centric "we" though. Also without knowing anything about Scandinavia I'm assuming your secularism is driven by culture rather than government abolition of all religious institutions.
04-16-2019 , 07:57 PM
Trump vetoed the resolution to end support to Saudi Arabia in the Yemen war, what an ever-loving piece of ****.
04-16-2019 , 07:58 PM
It will never stop amazing me that Americans who spend their time in soulless suburban and exurban strip malls and chain restaurants speak dismissively of objectively superior countries like Greece, France, Japan, Spain, etc.

      
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