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Old 04-16-2019, 12:58 PM   #14351
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Old 04-16-2019, 12:59 PM   #14352
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in theory they could leak the unredacted report or even the whole case file, but that seems unlikely
The Presidentís son released emails where he was gleefully collaborating with an intermediary of the Russian government to obtain dirt on Hillary. That had zero impact on Trumpsís base and his enablers. I donít think they are concerned about a biased report complied by angry, crooked Hillary supporters. The only things that are going to possibly make any meaningful difference at this point is a massive electoral victory or violence. Neither of these seem likely.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:07 PM   #14353
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Which makes sense as long as Barr isn't withholding important information from the Congress. Why would Mueller and his entire team (many who are Democrats) let Barr get away with withholding his investigation's important findings from the public and the Congress?
How could a Republican convince another Republican that the information which was withheld was necessarily done so for security/privacy/whatever reasons? Heavens it must be impossible!
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:12 PM   #14354
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How could a Republican convince another Republican that the information which was withheld was necessarily done so for security/privacy/whatever reasons? Heavens it must be impossible!
What about the many Democrats on Mueller's team?
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:15 PM   #14355
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Imagine telling your grandkids that you spent the Trump presidency being a nihilistic contrarian troll.

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The President’s son released emails where he was gleefully collaborating with an intermediary of the Russian government to obtain dirt on Hillary. That had zero impact on Trumps’s base and his enablers. I don’t think they are concerned about a biased report complied by angry, crooked Hillary supporters. The only things that are going to possibly make any meaningful difference at this point is a massive electoral victory or violence. Neither of these seem likely.
Trump’s voter base is 100% okay with being Vlad Putin’s vichy regime. They probably admire Putin way more, he’s a legit strongman billionaire with sexxxy abs.
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What about the many Democrats on Mueller's team?
They will listen to Mueller who's in charge? I agree that if we get the full report, it will be through some "unauthorized" leak.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:19 PM   #14357
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Omg yes please. Literally the only sliver of a chance the dems have of keeping the seat in Alabama
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:22 PM   #14358
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They will listen to Mueller who's in charge? I agree that if we get the full report, it will be through some "unauthorized" leak.
And this unauthorized leak hardly seems like it would be far-fetched. And the threat of that leak provides Barr with a strong incentive to not be too liberal with the redactions. If he covers up something important and material with a redaction and then that section of the report is leaked in dacted form, it makes Trump and Barr look even worse than had it just been released in the first place.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:26 PM   #14359
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Imagine telling your grandkids that you spent the Trump presidency being a nihilistic contrarian troll.
hmmmmm

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Trumpís voter base is 100% okay with being Vlad Putinís vichy regime. They probably admire Putin way more, heís a legit strongman billionaire with sexxxy abs.
much better to be an easily duped conspiracy theorist, I suppose.
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OK man, walk me through it. Why would Mueller and his team be perfectly content to inappropriately let Barr hide important information from the public about the investigation they they spent two years of their life working on?
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:30 PM   #14361
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much better to be an easily duped conspiracy theorist, I suppose.
Conspiracy? Wtf are you talking about, Trumpís campaign was actively working with intermediaries for the Russian government to hurt Trumpís political opponents. That **** is clearly established. Youíre being a useful idiot to pretend otherwise.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:34 PM   #14362
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Imagine telling your grandkids that you spent the Trump presidency being a nihilistic contrarian troll.



Trumpís voter base is 100% okay with being Vlad Putinís vichy regime. They probably admire Putin way more, heís a legit strongman billionaire with sexxxy abs.
Russia is the great white hope. They would rather us be allied with them over the French and other Europeans.
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Conspiracy? Wtf are you talking about, Trumpís campaign was actively working with intermediaries for the Russian government to hurt Trumpís political opponents. That **** is clearly established. Youíre being a useful idiot to pretend otherwise.
The claim that Troll Trollson guy was making was that Trump's administration is the Vichy government of Putin. That is, that Trump is a literal puppet of the Russians, as the Vichy government was of the Nazis. Even if what you claim is true it does nothing to establish that Putin is somehow controlling Trump. Saying that Trump is a literal puppet of Putin is absolutely a wholly unsupported conspiracy theory.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:36 PM   #14364
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The claim that Troll Trollson guy was making was that Trump's administration is the Vichy government of Putin. That is, that Trump is a literal puppet of the Russians, as the Vichy government was of the Nazis. Even if what you claim is true it does nothing to establish that Putin is somehow controlling Trump. Saying that Trump is a literal puppet of Putin is absolutely a wholly unsupported conspiracy theory.
Let's try bolding the opposite part of the sentence you bolded:
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Trump’s voter base is 100% okay with being Vlad Putin’s vichy regime.
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ffs wondered why this thread got so many posts. Should of known.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:41 PM   #14366
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The claim that Troll Trollson guy was making was that Trump's administration is the Vichy government of Putin. That is, that Trump is a literal puppet of the Russians, as the Vichy government was of the Nazis. Even if what you claim is true it does nothing to establish that Putin is somehow controlling Trump. Saying that Trump is a literal puppet of Putin is absolutely a wholly unsupported conspiracy theory.
Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit
At a news conference after the summit, President Trump was asked if he believed his own intelligence agencies or the Russian president when it came to the allegations of meddling in the elections.

"President Putin says it's not Russia. I don't see any reason why it would be," he replied.
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So Mueller is in on the conspiracy to undermine the Mueller investigation. Such a power play by Trump, hats off. Masterful.
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OK man, walk me through it. Why would Mueller and his team be perfectly content to inappropriately let Barr hide important information from the public about the investigation they they spent two years of their life working on?
I can't help but hear Tucker Carlson reading posts like this
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:50 PM   #14368
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it's bigly possible, i'd say at this point probable, that trump acts as putin's puppet and uses his position as president of the united states to ingratiate himself to putin NOT because he's being blackmailed, but because trump is a super corrupt dude who will do just about anything to sell luxury condos in russia.
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Old 04-16-2019, 01:52 PM   #14370
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The claim that Troll Trollson guy was making was that Trump's administration is the Vichy government of Putin. That is, that Trump is a literal puppet of the Russians, as the Vichy government was of the Nazis. Even if what you claim is true it does nothing to establish that Putin is somehow controlling Trump. Saying that Trump is a literal puppet of Putin is absolutely a wholly unsupported conspiracy theory.
Read what he wrote, thatís not his claim. His point was that it doesnít matter even if such a conspiracy exists because Trumpís support doesnít care.
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it's bigly possible, i'd say at this point probable, that trump acts as putin's puppet and uses his position as president of the united states to ingratiate himself to putin NOT because he's being blackmailed, but because trump is a super corrupt dude who will do just about anything to sell luxury condos in russia.
But do you have evidence that trump is a literal puppet of putin? Like actual ****ing literal strings? Anything?!
 
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