Liar.

Cue millions of square miles of open land.

I am certainly not imposing sexual morality. I don’t care if a person is straight, gay, trans, bi, monogamous, or shtupping a different person every week, whatever. But lying to your spouse about it is sleazy.

Institute a 1-child per family policy then.

I was implicitly using a definition of "affair" that mean that it was under the table.

You do not have to reflexively defend every single action related to sexuality. The problem with cheating is the breach of trust. Sex is just the tool.
When somebody calls out drunk driving you shouldn't accuse them of not liking cars either. It's not about the car. It's not about the sex.

A humbler person might reexamine his views when literally everybody else disagrees.

"Cheating" or "infidelity" is probably better in that case, imo. But that's enough nittery for today. I think we're on the same page.

Yeah, saying "implicitly" was a concession that there can be ambiguity in the term, and that I hadn't acknowledged that. I echoed the previous language rather than maximizing clarity.

So that's a no on listening to yourself.

If nobody knew you killed someone it would do great things for your reputation of not being killer...

Clovis is hung up on the sex part of it. If one was deceiving and lying to their significant other so they could go use drugs or so they could feed a gambol addiction it would be the same thing.

Doesn’t have any thug to do with being prude or puritanical and everything to do with being a liar MC lie face to someone close to you because you don’t want to deal with reality. This absolute helps indicate how one would behave as a public official. There is little chance this person is going to start being brutally honest and frank when in office, when put in a tough situation.

So far you have equated infidelity to slavery and murder. Keep up the good work.

I spoke too soon earlier. You might not be able to google.

Clovis being an absolutely atrocious poster is totally standard I guess.

Seriously is there a worse derail than this? I don't even see a point in continuing to argue the point. It obviously comes down to a matter of morality and that will never be settled here.

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Wonder how many immigrants Trump will imprison before turning the prison camps into Nazi extermination camps. I mean making that request has to be why KN quit. She's done pretty much everything else to asylum seekers.

It wasn't a false equivalence. It was taking your dumb statement to its absurd but self-consistent conclusion. The ad populum fallacy is no more correct for sexual misconduct than it is for people defending Trump's racist statements.

trump: so, we're full. stephen tells me we are at capacity.

niejlssen: yes, sir.

trump: and since these illegal animals are so dangerous, we can't risk letting any of the ones we've captured out of their cages.

niejlssen: right.

trump: so might there be a way to lower the number of illegals we've captured, without freeing them?

niejlssen: i don't have the guts to either go through with this or oppose it, so i'm going to resign so you can put someone in my job who definitely will go through with it. btw i'm still like 10x a better person than awval.

trump: who's awval?

niejlssen: he's just this guy, don't worry about it.

Well the largest detention center is still denying Congress people from checking out the camps and saying they require a two week notice. Despite the law passed last year saying they can't do that.

https://www.axios.com/florida-congre...f793ba9cf.html

This is the nut low derail in thread history.

Lol

LMAO A+

nyt editorial board: Kirstjen Nielsen Enforced Cruelty at the Border. Her Replacement Could Be Worse.

In her resignation letter released on Sunday, Ms. Nielsen noted, “For more than two years of service beginning during the Presidential Transition, I have worked tirelessly to advance the goals and missions of the Department.”

This is hardly something to brag about. Whatever the secretary’s personal views, and no matter how impossible her job, she was the face of some of the administration’s most poorly conceived and gratuitously callous policies. At best, she was complicit and, yes, hopelessly weak.

Sadly, Ms. Nielsen’s response to her boss’s displeasure and abuse was both morally anemic and strategically incoherent. Last summer, as Republicans and Democrats — and many in the American public — protested the administration’s practice of tearing migrant children from their parents at the border, Ms. Nielsen rushed to publicly defend the policy. Scratch that. She insisted, repeatedly and bizarrely, that the administration had no such policy, even as her agency was enforcing and justifying it.

“We do not have a policy of separating families at the border,” she said on Twitter last June. “Period.” She repeated as much to Congress as recently as March.

Nor was immigration the only issue on which Ms. Nielsen floundered. On the critical question of Russia’s meddling in the 2016 elections, she was even less lucid. At times, she seemed to support the intelligence community’s findings that the Kremlin had been up to no good. Other times, she supported the view that Russia had not favored Mr. Trump in the election. Her every utterance seemed designed to obfuscate rather than clarify.

****ing complicit Quisling monster will get a sweet lobbying gig and face no real consequences for abducting children.

100% her replacement will be worse. I don't know how much room there is between her and Amon Goth.

On the subject of the fullness of the United States:


https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/sta...10114292375552

I actually agree with this.

Those cities are around the northern border--Trump's talking about the southern border. Checkmate libtard.

Is that a complaint?