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Old 04-07-2019, 04:49 PM   #13451
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

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I donít understand your question. Those speak directly to his ability to be president. Which people he has ****ed does not, assuming said people consented.
I dont know about this guy but conservatives regularly run on family values and fidelity and the people who they think are bringing down America by not living up to their ideals of those. Which means when they go against those values they preach for their political advantage its fair to bring it up.
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Old 04-07-2019, 04:59 PM   #13452
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Yes I do. All dishonesty is not immoral. They are doing something dishonest to their partner. No doubt. But the only person effected are those two. This is why it has no bearing at all on their ability to do their job.

For the record, I’ve never been unfaithful because I’ve never been in a non-open relationship.
alright so i got a beef with this pathetic ****ing minimalization that you're trying to do here. idk what your relationship status is and really i don't care either, but your partner in life is supposed to be YOUR ****ING PARTNER. this is supposed to be the most important person in the world to you, the one you care about the most. and you don't think it reflects a certain way on somebody that, when they get unhappy for whatever reason, their response is not to be honest and talk about it with their partner in order to figure out some kind of solution, but to lie and go behind his/her back and share intimacy with other people?

that's some punk ****, that goes straight to the core of who you are as a person (integrity, dependability, etc) and tbh i'm not surprised that you're ok with it.
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:10 PM   #13453
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

It’s also super funny that being not being okay with repeated and chronic infidelity puts us with trumpkins in Clovis land when, like, actual Trumpkins are okay with it just like he is.

This is just a bad hot take and there is no way to shore it up at this point. An opportunity to announce sexual enlightenment again but it doesn’t bear scrutiny. I’m sure there are agreements within your open relationships, Clovis, like discretions or safety. If those agreements are broken is that zero reflection on the integrity of the dishonest party? You know, since it isn’t just an archaic tradition you don’t care for that is being violated?
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:21 PM   #13454
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well i mean let us not lose sight of the context here. any GOP garbageman by default is running on some level of "family values" type politicking, so it's absolutely fair game to point out that he's a complete POS when he gets caught cheating on his wife. i dont care if "everybody does it" or "it's just between the two of them", it's 100% a reflection of the garbage human being that he is.
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:33 PM   #13455
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Lulz these guys can’t handle it.

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Old 04-07-2019, 05:34 PM   #13456
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

I keep wondering how much BLOAT POTUS' legal team is hectoring the Justice Dept and Barr about the redactions being done now
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:43 PM   #13457
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Itís interesting how this thread is so liberal with everything but sex then itís lock step with boiler plate conservatives.
Do you think infidelity is a liberal value lol?
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:44 PM   #13458
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

Somewhere between 0% and 100% of all people will cheat on their significant other at some point in their lifetimes. That is a statistical FACT. The exact parameter value may skew more in one direction or the other due to self weighting.
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:47 PM   #13459
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because it's illegal and cheating on your wife isn't? (just a wild guess)
So Clovisí position is based on him being a devout law and order guy.

Law trumps morality I guess?
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:51 PM   #13460
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any person who secretly cheats on a spouse who would have left them had they known is highly immoral because they deprived them of information that would have led them to seek a different life than what they have
I'm putting my ONE TIME at risk in hopes this is an excerpt from Chapter 3: The Fundamental Theorem of Infidelity from your new book The Theory of Infidelity.
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:56 PM   #13461
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Lulz these guys canít handle it.

Sweet. She was my pick.
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Old 04-07-2019, 05:57 PM   #13462
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Man this game sucks I thought Rosenstein was supposed to be this months pick.

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Lulz these guys can’t handle it.

It’s terrifying to consider what inhumane thing Trump asked her to do to migrants that finally made Nazi ***** decide she had to quit.
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:00 PM   #13463
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Looking forward to seeing Nazi Cage Lady getting the Sean Spicer treatment. She'll be on MSNBC by Wednesday, welcomed with open arms with tales of Trump dysfunction.
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:02 PM   #13464
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:03 PM   #13465
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:07 PM   #13466
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I want to know what the other 0.09% is
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:12 PM   #13467
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:21 PM   #13468
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Trump "looking to go in a tougher direction" on immigration. Can"t close the border. So landmines then?
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:23 PM   #13469
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Trump "looking to go in a tougher direction" on immigration. Can"t close the border. So landmines then?
Have you heard about the 2nd amendment?
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:43 PM   #13470
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That I cheat on my wife doesn't mean that I treat my employees badly.
Not necessarily, but in my experience there is at least some correlation with being a sleaze in your personal life and being a sleaze in your professional life.
 
Old 04-07-2019, 06:46 PM   #13471
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What people do I their sex lives is completely irrelevant to the rest of their lives (assuming it is legal). This is such an obvious point so many people canít grasp.
There is a difference between a consensual open marriage or whatever and somebody who is lying to their spouse. I think most on here donít think the former matters, but it is the latter that we are talking about. Itís not the sex life that matters, its the fact that the we know the person was a liar.
 
Old 04-07-2019, 06:52 PM   #13472
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Watching Clovis get ganged up on always reminds me of one of my favorite OOT threads ever when he stole a really dumb game from another forum, mocked people who found it difficult, and then got exposed for having stolen it and being really bad at it himself. Lol Clovis forever and ever
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:54 PM   #13473
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imo. a marriage is a contract in its simplest form. if you lie and cheat on one contract it makes it more likely you will lie and cheat on others. you as a married person have every opportunity to dissolve the contract before breaking it.

the fact that sex is involved is immaterial. they are showing they are willing to cheat/lie on a contract.
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:54 PM   #13474
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I've seen some bad Clovis takes but this one takes the cake lol.
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Old 04-07-2019, 06:55 PM   #13475
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because it's illegal and cheating on your wife isn't? (just a wild guess)
Which person is more immoral:

1. A person who smokes pot daily in violation of the law;
2. A person who lies daily to the people around them, but doesnít violate the law.
 

 
      

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