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Old 03-29-2019, 11:27 PM   #12776
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Old 03-30-2019, 01:12 AM   #12777
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If anyone wants to meet up and go protest this, I'm down to fly to El Paso whenever. If we could get 15-20 people, we could possibly get some news coverage and I'm also down to buy food and water and pass it to them through the fence and dare ICE to arrest us if they try to make us stop.

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I'd actually be in for this
I canít do this as Iím not American and canít risk it. That said, I have some southwest points Iíll donate to help someone who can. Iím not George Soros but this kind of spark to take action needs to be fanned.
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Old 03-30-2019, 08:15 AM   #12778
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Old 03-30-2019, 08:17 AM   #12779
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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

Yea just a hero war criminal that killed a kid and posed with the corpse, nbd nothing to see here

Everything is broken.
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Old 03-30-2019, 10:33 AM   #12780
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Sounds like the type of thing “left libertarians” used to really care about before they went haywire and decided to focus their time and energy on helping the powerful elite gaslight us re: their obvious and blatant malfeasance.
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Old 03-30-2019, 11:20 AM   #12781
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Equally awesome, thanks!

If anyone else is interested, post or PM me, and if we get several people we can try to organize a date and do it.

If not, and it's just a few people, I'll be passing through the southwest in late July/early August, and could be down to protest at one of these sites and/or volunteer for a related cause in any of the border states, even if it's just a couple of us. It could just be that instead of a protest that gets coverage, we're taking a video like that and sharing it to try to fan the flames of outrage a little bit via social media.

But if we get a big enough group, I'll try to use my past broadcasting/PR experience to do some media outreach in advance and attempt to get the issue some coverage.
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Old 03-30-2019, 11:32 AM   #12782
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i'm in dallas so i can probably maek it over there some way somehow. might be surprised to know it's still quite a journey from here. texas is ****ing huge, i'm still getting used to it
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Turn the bot off please
Once a week we should temp-ban the bot so that we don't see all the tweets, but they still archive and everything since that's basically a public service at this point... and we should replace it for the day with a DDale8 bot.

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also at the donald trump store you can now buy a pencil neck adam schiff shirt with a clown nose.
I thought wheatrich was joking, but I wasn't quite sure so I checked.

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Old 03-30-2019, 11:35 AM   #12784
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i'm in dallas so i can probably maek it over there some way somehow. might be surprised to know it's still quite a journey from here. texas is ****ing huge, i'm still getting used to it
Probably like 8+ hours driving right? I've driven El Paso -> Austin, and I've driven from Albuquerque to Winstar to Austin, passing through Dallas, so I've got a pretty good feel for how long it takes to get from El Paso back to civilization going west to east. (That's the type of road trip I'll be on again this summer.)
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Old 03-30-2019, 12:22 PM   #12785
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El Paso is about 40% of the way from Dallas to Los Angeles.
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Old 03-30-2019, 01:17 PM   #12786
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i apologize if im slow ponying this but i just saw that noted healtchare expert RICK SCOTT has been picked by Trump to be the front man/idea man for the new republican healthcare plan...

grifters gonna grift but still, just the idea of putting the dude responsible for the biggest medicare fraud in history as the front man for healthcare is hilariously trump.
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Old 03-30-2019, 02:12 PM   #12787
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Awesome! Thanks...



Equally awesome, thanks!

If anyone else is interested, post or PM me, and if we get several people we can try to organize a date and do it.

If not, and it's just a few people, I'll be passing through the southwest in late July/early August, and could be down to protest at one of these sites and/or volunteer for a related cause in any of the border states, even if it's just a couple of us. It could just be that instead of a protest that gets coverage, we're taking a video like that and sharing it to try to fan the flames of outrage a little bit via social media.

But if we get a big enough group, I'll try to use my past broadcasting/PR experience to do some media outreach in advance and attempt to get the issue some coverage.
does anyone have a good article or two about the situation in el paso? Everything I'm reading says they've set up a "temporary processing shelter" because they're "overwhelmed" by the # of refugees, but that doesn't make any sense. Arrests at the border peaked in 2000, although they have been rising under the Trump administration. Is it because we are now processing far fewer refugees than in the past? The US has a limit of 30,000 refugees for 2019, compared to 45,000 in 2018 and the 75,000/year average over the last couple decades.

Can't find an article that explains why the system is overwhelmed, what the facilities are designed to hold/what they're actually holding now, and what the timeline is for ending this "temporary crisis".


reading about the child separation policy is actually making me sick. I knew about it, but I never really read up on it. our government is full of the most vile and disgusting human beings, if they even deserve to be called that:

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Following a court order by District Judge Dana Sabraw to reunite all parents with their children by July 26, it was revealed that about 500 children's parents had already been deported. Judge Sabraw commented, "What was lost in the process was the family. The parents didn’t know where the children were, and the children didn’t know where the parents were. And the government didn’t know either.”[173] On August 2, the Justice Department filed in court that the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) should take responsibility for reuniting families, rather than the federal government.[174] The ACLU responded by stating that while they are ready to help, the burden of responsibility for finding parents of minors separated at the border was the government's responsibility.[175]

On July 26, 2018, the Trump administration said that 1,442 children had been reunited with their parents while 711 remained in government shelters.[20] However, in January 2019 the administration acknowledged that thousands of children affected by the policy remained separated from their families, with officials uncertain of the exact number.[21][22]

In February 2019, Trump officials said that they would not focus any efforts on reuniting parents with children who had already been sent to foster homes.
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A followup government report released in January 2019, revealed that while HHS had previously said that the total number of children separated from their parents was 2,737, a new investigation suggested the true number of children to be thousands more, with the exact number unknown.[307][21] In February, the Trump administration responded to requests made by the ACLU that the thousands of children that were revealed in the January report be reunited with their parents as well. HHS responded to the requests saying it would be extremely difficult to locate the children and even if it were possible they planned to continue to focus only the children currently in custody, claiming that removing children from "sponsor" homes “would present grave child welfare concerns.” The leading ACLU attorney responded saying “The Trump administration’s response is a shocking concession that it can’t easily find thousands of children it ripped from parents, and doesn’t even think it’s worth the time to locate each of them."[308]

the facilities the kids were held in:

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Three facilities in Combes, Raymondville and Brownsville (Casa El President, operated by Southwest Key), in southern Texas, have been set up to hold children under five and have been referred to as "tender age shelters". Medical professionals and lawyers who visited the facilities described "play rooms" filled with preschool children crying and in crisis.[155] Colleen Kraft, the president of American Academy of Pediatrics, visited the Coombs facility and said she was "shaken" by what she saw, calling it "a heartbreaking scene" and unlike anything she'd seen in her decades as a pediatrician. She termed the practice of removing the children from their parents "government-sanctioned child abuse".[13]

Upbring New Hope Children’s Shelter in McAllen, Texas. As of June 21, about 60 children were housed in this facility, including six who had been separated from their parents while the remaining children had arrived alone. According to American Academy of Pediatrics President Colleen Draft, this center, like other centers, confiscates any possessions the child may arrive with and care givers are not allowed to comfort or touch the children. Following President Trump's June 20 executive order to stop separating undocumented immigrant parents and their children, on June 21 First Lady Melania Trump visited this facility saying, "I'm here to learn about your facility, in which I know you house children on a long-term basis and I'd also like to ask you how I can help these children to reunite with their families as quickly as possible." Critics have argued that this visit did not give the First Lady an accurate look at what many have called an unfolding crisis. She was also widely criticized for wearing a jacket that on the back stated "I Really Don't Care, Do U" when she boarded the plane for her trip to the facility.[156][157]
the medical treatment inflicted on children:

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There are concerns that the facilities that children were held in may have in the past been associated with the forcible drugging of children. The Texas Tribune reported that detained children who had previously been held at the Shiloh Treatment Center said they had been forcibly treated with antipsychotic drugs by the facility personnel, based on legal filings from a class action lawsuit. According to the filings, the drugs made the children listless, dizzy and incapacitated, and in some cases unable to walk. According to a mother, after receiving the drug, her child repeatedly fell, hitting her head and eventually ending up in a wheel chair. Another child stated that she tried to open a window, at which point one of the supervisors hurled her against a door, choked her until she fainted and had a doctor forcibly administer an injection while she was being held down by two guards. A forensic psychiatrist consulted by the Tribune compared the practice to what "the old Soviet Union used to do".[115][116][117][118][119]

The treatment center is one of the companies that have been investigated on charges of mistreating children, although the federal government continues to employ the private agency which runs it as a federal contractor.[115][116][117][118][119]

officially, the policy ended. now thousands of kids will never see their parents again. and no one really gives a ****. life moves on in the "land of the free"
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Old 03-30-2019, 02:23 PM   #12788
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also, unsurprising tidbit I found while reading up on this:

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In addition to far lower admissions overall, the type of refugee admitted has changed under Trump, a Reuters analysis of government data shows. The percentage who are Muslim is now a third what it was two years ago, while the percentage who are Europeans has tripled.

The shift has led to striking imbalances. Refugees admitted to the United States from the small European country of Moldova, for example, now outnumber those from Syria by three to one, although the number of Syrian refugees worldwide outnumbers the total population of Moldova.
immigration policies, another way the right tries to "keep america white" (something I used to hear chanted at my highschool in california...in 2013)
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Old 03-30-2019, 02:54 PM   #12789
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tgiggity,

In 2013 were you a high school teacher/employee or student?
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Old 03-30-2019, 02:58 PM   #12790
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In 2013 were you a high school teacher/employee or student?
graduated in 2013. can say that racism/bigotry of all kinds is not only alive and well in our schools, it's being encouraged in some of them. the only african-american in my class left the school because of racism from teachers/students
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Old 03-30-2019, 02:59 PM   #12791
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Latest reporting and background from Post and Times:
ICE cuts family detention capacity, is likely to release immigrant families directly into the United States
Migrants Are Detained Under a Bridge in El Paso. What Happened?

Meanwhile ICE dumps migrants by the busload at the Greyhound station, local churches and volunteer groups are overwhelmed: Migrants dropped off by ICE outside Phoenix bus stations are left with few resources
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Latest reporting and background from Post and Times:
ICE cuts family detention capacity, is likely to release immigrant families directly into the United States
Migrants Are Detained Under a Bridge in El Paso. What Happened?

Meanwhile ICE dumps migrants by the busload at the Greyhound station, local churches and volunteer groups are overwhelmed: Migrants dropped off by ICE outside Phoenix bus stations are left with few resources
tyty, finally got a WAPO subscription, guess I need NYtimes too

sucks that they're behind a paywall. I get it, and I'm happy to support quality journalism, but most people paying to read these articles already agree with them
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Old 03-30-2019, 03:08 PM   #12793
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graduated in 2013. can say that racism/bigotry of all kinds is not only alive and well in our schools, it's being encouraged in some of them. the only african-american in my class left the school because of racism from teachers/students
Dang son, you may be the youngest person here by more than a decade.
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Old 03-30-2019, 03:31 PM   #12794
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do not ban the bot please. it's not the bot's fault.
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Old 03-30-2019, 03:48 PM   #12796
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The percentage who are Muslim is now a third what it was two years ago, while the percentage who are Europeans has tripled.
That sentence is pretty amazing,I demand a sklansky analysis of it.
About the children topic, it sounds borderline crime against humanity?
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nothing borderline about it
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always figured the point of the bot was so we could keep an eye on trump's tweets w/out supporting him with a twitter follow

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That sentence is pretty amazing,I demand a sklansky analysis of it.
About the children topic, it sounds borderline crime against humanity?
doesn't seem borderline at all
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Everything is so easy to solve

1 hour each but then he canít get the votes

If we make him dictator then he can solve every problem we have so quickly with no obstructionists to stop him
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