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Old 01-05-2019, 04:22 AM   #1251
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Trump offers DACA solution and all he wants is permanent closure of the National Museum of African American History and Culture and The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

Take it?
If the alternative was that they got deported the majority of Jews and black people would take it.
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Old 01-05-2019, 05:11 AM   #1252
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so i was gonna respond to a couple posts re: this wall garbage, but i think i've already made my position entirely clear and i don't care if d10, wichita, and suzzer think i'm wrong- new house dems get it, pelosi gets it, plenty of people itt get it. i will point out right now that those who most oppose my thinking in this are not liberals, with the exception of cuserounder who i still completely disagree with but he's entitled to his opinion.
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Old 01-05-2019, 05:16 AM   #1253
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This seems reasonable. TSA agents are already dropping out, if airports start having disruptions, I can imagine it coming to a boiling point pretty quick. And tsa aren't the only ones. These 'essential' government employees can't keep working for free forever.

Nonsense, Trump tells me that these people want a wall and are happy to be giving up their pay to get it.

Also they are mostly Democrats.
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Old 01-05-2019, 07:36 AM   #1254
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You could easily just get some philanthropists to fund and support those. So, probably.

I'm sure you could keep adding stuff and eventually the answer would be no, but you have a way to go.
Instead of closing a couple museums he wants a measly $300 million to build a massive museum dedicated to white supremacy in exchange for DACA.

The Smithsonian Museum of White Pride.

Take it?
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Old 01-05-2019, 08:18 AM   #1255
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Old 01-05-2019, 08:31 AM   #1256
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Old 01-05-2019, 08:43 AM   #1257
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They just need to pass a bill without the wall, but have McConnell tell Trump the wall is in there. He would never know the difference.
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Old 01-05-2019, 08:58 AM   #1258
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Old 01-05-2019, 09:55 AM   #1259
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Thank you Kanye, very cool.
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Old 01-05-2019, 09:56 AM   #1260
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Old 01-05-2019, 10:02 AM   #1261
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I didn’t do campaign violations! And also, look at all these other people who DID do campaign violations that were no big deal!
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Old 01-05-2019, 10:44 AM   #1262
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I was at a hearing yesterday in federal court. My district is still humming along for matters not involving government litigants. Stuff involving the government is being continued. In the past, I've seen agencies request (and receive) indefinite stays of proceedings in the face of impending shutdowns. I don't think there is any particular protocol.
I practice bankruptcy law and so every case has the U.S. Trustee's office (Part of DOJ) as a party. I'm guessing that is the difference.
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Old 01-05-2019, 10:49 AM   #1263
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Old 01-05-2019, 10:57 AM   #1264
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I hope the Dems don't give in. We'll never hear the end of it. Whatever they get in return unless its Medicare for All or something huge will be forgotten about quickly. Delayed tax refunds and other side effects will ramp up the pressure on Trump to cave. Dems got to stand their ground.
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Old 01-05-2019, 10:57 AM   #1265
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Lucky for Trump this shutdown is in the winter and not during prime golfing season
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:03 AM   #1266
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So this came out of nowhere. Something happening next week?
 
Old 01-05-2019, 11:04 AM   #1267
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I don't get why the government shut down impinges on his slothful grifting at Mar-a-Lago.
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:14 AM   #1268
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I present exhibit A for team

**** trump and **** his wall.
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:16 AM   #1269
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:18 AM   #1270
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This ****ing idiot thinks border security is the only job of president. Stfu about the wall you moron. How about you do something else for 5 minutes.

I hope he never gets a cent for the ****ing wall.

I don’t even have to look it up to be willing to snap bet my net worth every one of those stats he cites is a complete lie.
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:46 AM   #1271
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I love his implication that he’s going above and beyond to help democrat federal workers that he shouldn’t have to because they’re democrat. Obviously saying that so his base doesn’t care about the shutdown because the only ppl working federal jobs are the evolving Dems, but still. The Great Uniter
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:52 AM   #1272
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:55 AM   #1273
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:57 AM   #1274
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I present exhibit A for team

**** trump and **** his wall.
Yeah the only acceptable outcome is a clean reopening of the government with nothing attached. Simply canít deal on this. He has to be broken of this behavior because he is 100% untrustworthy as is the GOO.

I donít feel like the Democrats are hitting the messaging hard enough on trump keeping the government closed for his pet project and that anything including a wall has no bearing on reopening the government.
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Old 01-05-2019, 11:59 AM   #1275
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I'm surprised there hasn't been marches by Federal employees yet. No way would I be putting up with this and not get paid. Especially w/ the Dotard saying it could go on for months or years. If Trump is calling it a strike, they might as well walk out.
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