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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Not sure what I'm hand waving away. The question isn't are these things "OK". There's lots of things about the Trump presidency that aren't "OK". The question is were the things that Schiff listed criminal. And if Barr's summary of Mueller's report can be believed then an extensive investigation was not able to establish the criminality of the acts that Schiff listed. And so, all right, Don Jr met with some Russians? If it can't be shown that he broke any laws when doing so then who cares? Let's charge some folks with conspiring with the Russians or move on. Same thing goes for all the other items on Schiff's list. If it can't be proven that the things he thinks "aren't OK" are actually criminal acts then it's time to move on to other issues and put this two and a half year investigation behind us.
The obvious option is that Mueller didn't consider it his job to make conclusions. The Constitution specifies the method for Presidential oversight. The House and Impeachment.
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
"technically" illegal? The law is technical! If it isn't technical then there isn't a law at all. If something is technically legal then it's legal. Period.
Look, I'm not defending Barr, I'm not saying he's honest or a good guy or can be relied on. I'm saying something very simple. If Mueller actually found criminality around the Trump campaign's interactions with Russians, then Barr would be crazy to misrepresent that and say that Mueller found no such criminality. You really think that Mueller would just sit silently while Barr made such a substantial and direct misrepresentation? It seems inconceivable.
Barr provided a legal opinion. I'm not confident it's impartial. And once again, Mueller likely didn't make any conclusion about 'criminality'. He left that to the Constitutionally empowered.
It's inconceivable that a team that didn't leak at all for 2 years would continue it's silence? Especially if the team considered the judicial process ongoing? I would be shocked if Mueller comments at all before being subpoenaed by the HJC