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Old 03-28-2019, 12:12 PM   #12601
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Old 03-28-2019, 12:16 PM   #12602
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Canada could lead world in resettling refugees by 2020, passing U.S.

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Old 03-28-2019, 12:29 PM   #12603
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Old 03-28-2019, 12:59 PM   #12604
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As Trump steps up his attacks on Puerto Rico, House Dems plan to introduce statehood legislation

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Soto said the bill will be supported by Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska), former chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee that oversees Puerto Rico issues, as well as other House Republicans. Republican Sens. Marco Rubio and Rick Scott of Florida, home to thousands of Puerto Rico expats, have previously expressed support for statehood if that is what Puerto Rico chooses.
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:07 PM   #12605
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If they win big in 2020 Dems should push hard for Puerto Rico and D.C. statehood and think about updating the Reapportionment Act of 1929 to give states better representation in the House.
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:16 PM   #12606
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Schiff was presented with a letter signed by 8 Repubs from his committee (that he chairs), demanding that he resign the chairmanship.

His response:

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Old 03-28-2019, 01:19 PM   #12607
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I mean he is an idiot but they have shirts and signs and all of that, he has to be aware. A conspiracy where he is a ****ing superhero? Itís probajly his favorite thing. It may not be specific to the Q bull****, but it is clearly his MO to claim he has info to imply **** that isnít true. He has been doing it forever.
I just meant that I can't imagine him not sneaking in Q phrases to get his base super amped if he knew what they were.

WaPo with some examples of Trump lies:
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:22 PM   #12608
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Georgie Conway has been firing shats from the bell tower all morning, most at Trump, but then there's this

I guess making a career out of minimizing racial issues and referring to Arabs as piles of sewage isn't alt right enough for fat Georgie.
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:35 PM   #12609
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Which caused #DevinNunesisanIdiot to trend on Twitter last night.
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:38 PM   #12610
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I had a Romanian roommate once, he was chill.
Did he pave driveways and tar roofs?
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Old 03-28-2019, 01:41 PM   #12611
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I just meant that I can't imagine him not sneaking in Q phrases to get his base super amped if he knew what they were.

WaPo with some examples of Trump lies:
All those accounting crimes just so he could bid on the Buffalo Bills? smh
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Old 03-28-2019, 02:41 PM   #12612
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Schiff was presented with a letter signed by 8 Repubs from his committee (that he chairs), demanding that he resign the chairmanship.



His response:





This video should be how everyone is thinking about and talking about the Russia stuff

I donít know how keed, inso, awval can hand-wave that stuff away but I know this video wonít change their mind; would take something more like $51/week to change awvalís mind and Iím not sure anything could get through to keed and inso as they seem to be true believers rather than worried about a little bit of money
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Old 03-28-2019, 02:44 PM   #12613
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Selling nuke technology to the guys who hijacked 9-11 planes to trigger the libs

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1R82MG
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Old 03-28-2019, 02:57 PM   #12614
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Our current system, where the rich exploit the undocumented immigrants is immoral, yes. I agree that a generous but regulated guest worker program is a good possible solution to the status quo, but I don't think that it should be anyone who shows up at our border wanting to come in. We would want to control the numbers and check the backgrounds of those who come. But I do think that the more generous the welfare state is the more problematic the guest worker situation is; if there is no path to citizenship you're creating a permanent underclass with little to no chance for social mobility, if the path to citizenship is too quick you risk overwhelming the welfare state with a flood of low skill workers from the poorest countries who would quite rationally try to come to improve their lives.
The only people in elected office nationally talking about completely open borders with no restrictions are Republicans claiming the Democrats want that. Democrats overall support more legal immigration, not just letting anyone in without so much as checking on who they are.

So your argument is that a generous welfare state would be unfair to guest workers, thus we should not let them in at all in the first place? Or just not have any welfare state at all? Ah, yes, the classic Republican argument technique: we can't do ANYTHING until we know EVERYTHING... We can't do ANYTHING if we don't know the solution will be perfectly fair for EVERYONE.

God forbid we make solid incremental improvements and adjust and adapt along the way to improve them... Because it's not like the GOP is using this line of argument to say that we need to go farther and do more right off the bat to make things better, they're using the argument to argue against doing anything at all.

It's disingenuous, as usual.

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Old 03-28-2019, 03:24 PM   #12615
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You are trying to wiggle out of what I am actually asking. Change my question to 75% of very smart totally non racist people who are willing to agree that there are more benefits than just GDP. The only thing you have to overcome is their ability to recognize fallacies. Can you get them to agree you are almost certainly right?

(Note: I agree that it is totally unfair that Americans think that they have a right to live in a much richer country when it is almost total luck that they are here. Some have the small argument that their great grandparents went to war so they would have that luck but its very weak. My only problem with your assertion is that you said it as if it was a fact even though even a lot of liberals would disagree. To do that you must have arguments that get past the best argument evaluaters. At least you do here. If you want to couch a gut feeling as an obvious fact you need to go to Mike Caro's website.)
If you are actually interested in the benefits of more open borders and not just trolling, here's a good article by someone who has a PhD in economics from Harvard (undergrad from California Institute of Technology) that's been cited 475 times. Cliffs are that more research needs to be done, but still, the benefit seems promising.

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What is the greatest single class of distortions in the global economy? One contender for this title is the tightly binding constraints on emigration from poor countries.... How large are the economic losses caused by barriers to emigration? Research on this question has been distinguished by its rarity and obscurity, but the few estimates we have should make economists’ jaws hit their desks.

When it comes to policies that restrict emigration, there appear to be trillion-dollar bills on the sidewalk. The gains to eliminating those barriers amount to large fractions of world GDP—one or two orders of magnitude larger than the gains from dropping all remaining restrictions on international flows of and capital.
https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdf/10.1257/jep.25.3.83
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Old 03-28-2019, 03:42 PM   #12617
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Old 03-28-2019, 03:45 PM   #12618
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It's like some poor machine learning attempt at language
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Old 03-28-2019, 03:48 PM   #12619
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I guess making a career out of minimizing racial issues and referring to Arabs as piles of sewage isn't alt right enough for fat Georgie.
George Conway is not an ally, and he's definitely of the conservative school of thought that the only people you can call racists are people who self-identify as racists. Shapiro doesn't identify as racist, so he can say all manner of racist things and you daren't call him racist.
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Old 03-28-2019, 03:52 PM   #12620
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Old 03-28-2019, 03:55 PM   #12621
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Old 03-28-2019, 04:01 PM   #12622
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This video should be how everyone is thinking about and talking about the Russia stuff

I donít know how keed, inso, awval can hand-wave that stuff away but I know this video wonít change their mind; would take something more like $51/week to change awvalís mind and Iím not sure anything could get through to keed and inso as they seem to be true believers rather than worried about a little bit of money
Not sure what I'm hand waving away. The question isn't are these things "OK". There's lots of things about the Trump presidency that aren't "OK". The question is were the things that Schiff listed criminal. And if Barr's summary of Mueller's report can be believed then an extensive investigation was not able to establish the criminality of the acts that Schiff listed. And so, all right, Don Jr met with some Russians? If it can't be shown that he broke any laws when doing so then who cares? Let's charge some folks with conspiring with the Russians or move on. Same thing goes for all the other items on Schiff's list. If it can't be proven that the things he thinks "aren't OK" are actually criminal acts then it's time to move on to other issues and put this two and a half year investigation behind us.
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Old 03-28-2019, 04:07 PM   #12623
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HEY GAIZ. DONT EVEN TALK ABOUT THINGS YOU CANT PROVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111!!!!

I MEAN BARR A TRUMP APOINTEE IS TOTALLY APPROPRIATE PERZON TO DECIDE THA MATTER

BTW I LOVE GG AND TOTALLY AM NOT COCERN TROLLING
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Old 03-28-2019, 04:08 PM   #12624
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lots of things are totally not ok and im totally not good with them but also stop talking about them immediately

A+, totally not hand waving
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It's like some poor machine learning attempt at language
deductibility ridiculously high
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