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Old 03-26-2019, 03:58 PM   #12426
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

So the Muller report is guaranteed to have some juicy stuff in it:

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/03...er-report.html

The “executive privilege” play never worked for Nixon, but who knows.
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:09 PM   #12427
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lol @ allowing the White House weeks to edit the report as they see fit.

wtf is wrong with our country
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:12 PM   #12428
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So the Muller report is guaranteed to have some juicy stuff in it:

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/03...er-report.html

The ďexecutive privilegeĒ play never worked for Nixon, but who knows.
Trump's Twitter silence was them trying to decide whether they had a play to claim victory and block the release. Now they're executing the play.

Maybe I'm wrong and they don't redact much, but I doubt it.

The Mueller Report probably shows that they colluded with oligarchs and surrogates, and with people who the CIA/FBI know to be Putin assets, but who can't be proven to be within a court of law. So he's cleared legally and we get a couple quotes in the four page Barr letter to clear him, they claim total exoneration, then 45 redacts the **** out of the actual report and screams witch hunt if the Dems press him.
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:14 PM   #12429
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The people that worked on this have far more discipline than I would. How they can spend 2 years chasing these scumbags and not leak as they claim victory I have no idea.
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:27 PM   #12430
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

So someone talk me down from this if I’m going all Seth Abrams here:

1. Barr, in his letter just flat-out lies about what would constitute obstruction of justice.

2. Barr now invokes the Nixonian executive privlige argument, which he knows is BS.

= it’s a 100% lock that there is some incriminating **** in this report, right? These seem like Hail Marys.

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Old 03-26-2019, 04:30 PM   #12431
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His tweets are like a clue from UK 80's game show 3-2-1 with Ted Rogers.
I think the answer to the last one is DR COPPER
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:37 PM   #12432
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:51 PM   #12433
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So the Muller report is guaranteed to have some juicy stuff in it:

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/03...er-report.html

The ďexecutive privilegeĒ play never worked for Nixon, but who knows.
I donít think this is a reliable news source.
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:55 PM   #12434
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Trump's Twitter silence was them trying to decide whether they had a play to claim victory and block the release. Now they're executing the play.

Maybe I'm wrong and they don't redact much, but I doubt it.

The Mueller Report probably shows that they colluded with oligarchs and surrogates, and with people who the CIA/FBI know to be Putin assets, but who can't be proven to be within a court of law. So he's cleared legally and we get a couple quotes in the four page Barr letter to clear him, they claim total exoneration, then 45 redacts the **** out of the actual report and screams witch hunt if the Dems press him.


This is exactly the case

They colluded with Russian oligarchs
Not enough to constitute a crime
Did not collude directly with Putin
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Old 03-26-2019, 04:57 PM   #12435
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Your honor, the prosecution requests that only the evidence the defendants allow be permissible.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:00 PM   #12436
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I donít think this is a reliable news source.
Other sources are also saying this.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:18 PM   #12437
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I donít think this is a reliable news source.
It's based on a tweet from a McClatchy reporter, which checks out as a valid source.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:25 PM   #12438
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Hand picked editors after a hand picked Barr. Nothing to hide though.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:32 PM   #12439
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So someone talk me down from this if Iím going all Seth Abrams here:

1. Barr, in his letter just flat-out lies about what would constitute obstruction of justice.

2. Barr now invokes the Nixonian executive privlige argument, which he knows is BS.

= itís a 100% lock that there is some incriminating **** in this report, right? These seem like Hail Marys.
I'm not sure, but wasn't it reported that Rosenstein has the full report? Seems like he could throw a pretty big wrench into this plan, which seems like a reason to discount this possibility.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:33 PM   #12440
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:40 PM   #12441
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Wonder how many dems in power are for actual opened borders. Are there any?
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:42 PM   #12442
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The term open borders seems like a completely meaningless scare word. Not sure it has any real definition that is supported by a politician.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:43 PM   #12443
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248 to 181. so 13 repubs came over.. 181 cowards that want to kneel before a king.. pretty crazy.
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Old 03-26-2019, 05:53 PM   #12444
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Wonder how many dems in power are for actual opened borders. Are there any?
Every single one of them, don't you listen?

Probably zero, though.
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:03 PM   #12445
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Just saw a video from yesterday of Lindsey Graham promising to investigate the Steele dossier, Clinton's e-mail scandal and the Loretta Lynch tarmac meeting.

These mother****ers will be investigating Hillary's corpse 20 years after she dies.
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:43 PM   #12446
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Wonder how many dems in power are for actual opened borders. Are there any?
None but way more should be. All borders should be way more open. Iím not convinced totally open borders isnít a good idea.
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:58 PM   #12447
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I agree the WSJ is a catastrophic media failure.
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Old 03-26-2019, 07:15 PM   #12448
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Old 03-26-2019, 07:25 PM   #12449
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I would pay an extra 20% in taxes to be done with this Trump nightmare.

Is there some sort of GTO equilibrium here where Dem voters each pay an extra 20% in taxes in exchange for the presidency? The extra taxes would A) fund tax cuts for the rich and B) artificially stimulate the economy. Basically we would be bribing the moderate-deplorable type that is more heavily swayed by their own financial situation than their obsession with oppressing brown people. This would require persuadable Republicans voters to play their hands face up... Not sure the exact mechanics. Maybe they would have to abstain from voting for president in exchange for getting to participate in the Dem subsidized tax cuts. And they get an Amex gift card for $100.
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