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Old 03-24-2019, 04:32 PM   #12276
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

mueller: does donald trump tweet from the @realdonaldtrump account?

trump's closest friend: lots of people tweet from that account

mueller: good enough for me
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:34 PM   #12277
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mueller: is this video of donald trump calling on russia to hack hillary clinton's emails him, in your opinion?

trump's closest friend: it's tough to say, a lot of people look and talk like that

mueller: [makes check mark on notepad] great, thanks.
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:43 PM   #12278
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:44 PM   #12279
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

Even in that tweet he had to throw in a lie

He wasn’t exonerated from obstruction

Pathological
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:46 PM   #12280
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lol even the summary written by trump's hand-picked ag explicitly said it didn't exonerate him of obstruction

the reason barr even is ag is because sessions wouldn't help trump obstruct
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:48 PM   #12281
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Isn't this terrible for 2020? Not sure the odds have actually moved that much but I kind of assumed that the chances of a second Trump term would jump up considerably with this outcome.
I don't think so.

A) This isn't the Mueller Report. This is the Barr Report of the Mueller Report.

B) The Mueller Report was never going to matter that much anyway.

C) Even if Trump were COMPLETELY exonerated from all the Russia stuff, it doesn't change the fact that he's a ****ty president.

D) As long as Democrats STAY ON MESSAGE, 2020 should be fine. Cliffs: Less Russia, more economy/health care.
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:48 PM   #12282
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Trump's Attorney General:

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Instead, for each of the relevant actions investigated, the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leaves unresolved what the Special Counsel views as "difficult issues" of law and fact concerning whether the President's actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction. The Special Counsel states that "while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."
Trump: "TOTAL EXONERATION"

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Old 03-24-2019, 04:49 PM   #12283
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Pretty much yes on obstruction but says the underlying crime wasn’t proven then no to obstruction.

So no evidence or not a good enough case to charge?
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:55 PM   #12284
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The danger is that now everyone knows you can get away with it as long as you win some of Congress along with the presidency and future elections are just who can cheat better
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:57 PM   #12285
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If you truly belief that Trump is corrupt and is guilty of the things that Mueller investigated, this summary doesn't matter. He could have influenced this summary in so many ways if he's truly corrupt. And it was very unlikely that Mueller was going to submit a report bringing major charges against the US president.

The full Mueller report is the only thing that matters.
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Old 03-24-2019, 04:57 PM   #12286
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bernie: china, if you're listening... i very much hope you're able to find donald trump's tax returns. i think you will be rewarded mightily.
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:00 PM   #12287
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So the House would have to subpoena the full report at this point in order to see it, and then would have to read it on the floor for it to become public record, correct? If so I hope this gets set in motion immediately.
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:02 PM   #12288
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The danger is that now everyone knows you can get away with it as long as you win some of Congress along with the presidency and future elections are just who can cheat better
Yep. POTUS now has complete immunity for any criminal conduct unless the opposition party has both the House and 2/3 of the senate.

Sweet country.
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:04 PM   #12289
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So the House would have to subpoena the full report at this point in order to see it, and then would have to read it on the floor for it to become public record, correct? If so I hope this gets set in motion immediately.
I’m sure they’ll get on this right after they’re done not obtaining Trumps tax returns.

We should be rioting in the streets. The Democratic Party is useless.
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:05 PM   #12290
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trump isn't going down easy in 2020. he and putin will have had 4 years to plan his re election campaign. only chance dems have is getting dirty too
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:06 PM   #12291
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yeah collusion is legal now, i hope dems take advantage of that
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:13 PM   #12292
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also, the truth doesn't matter/hasn't mattered for years. they need to start advancing policies with as much regard for the truth as R's

"what about the 27trillion dollars medicare for all is expected to cost over the next 10 years?"

instead of getting lost in the nuances (it will lower hc costs in a variety of ways, effectively reducing the cost of healthcare per person) they should just bs it

"you're reading those numbers wrong. it will actually reduce costs by 27 trillion over 10 years!"

who's going to check?
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:27 PM   #12293
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who's going to check?
Dems don't have the equivalent of the Fox propaganda machine that Rs have. The "liberal" (lol) media would jump all over such claims in order to jerk themselves off over holding "both sides" accountable. Ds can't just play the same game as Rs by lying repeatedly and expecting half the country to start believing it.
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Old 03-24-2019, 05:42 PM   #12294
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Dems don't have the equivalent of the Fox propaganda machine that Rs have. The "liberal" (lol) media would jump all over such claims in order to jerk themselves off over holding "both sides" accountable. Ds can't just play the same game as Rs by lying repeatedly and expecting half the country to start believing it.
yeah, I guess I meant the "liberal" media should start acting more like Fox, but there isn't really much liberal media in the first place. and what liberal media there is unfortunately (lol) isn't as easily corrupted by money or power.

it's not a fair fight when one side is unwilling to compromise it's ethics, but the other side doesn't give a **** about ethics or laws and no one can hold them accountable because they already control a huge percentage of wealth, not to mention controlling public opinion through the ownership of the majority of media outlets

america is ****ed
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Old 03-24-2019, 06:20 PM   #12295
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Russian trollbots in overdrive, if you dare to look at that Twitter thread.

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Old 03-24-2019, 06:22 PM   #12296
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Lol media. When I started getting news alerts on AG release every single headline from every major source I got in first 15-20 minutes had a headline that false,y described their own story.
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Old 03-24-2019, 06:50 PM   #12297
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Americans are so civic that their innate sense of chilvalry say to let Trump reach his final form before riot.
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Old 03-24-2019, 08:45 PM   #12298
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Does anyone feel like a bigger idiot today than James Comey? He probably knows a ton of evidence against Trump too
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Old 03-24-2019, 09:07 PM   #12300
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Does anyone feel like a bigger idiot today than James Comey? He probably knows a ton of evidence against Trump too
It is amazing that he took a line that made him hated by both sides.
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