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Old 03-23-2019, 08:52 AM   #12176
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:13 AM   #12177
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I guess presidential lawlessness is no big deal to you unless it has to do with Russian collusion?
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if russian collusion doesn't fit, you must acquit
you keep moving the goalposts

this thread and the left have been screaming collusion and obstruction for 2 years, and were sure mueller would deliver!
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:19 AM   #12178
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you keep moving the goalposts

this thread and the left have been screaming collusion and obstruction for 2 years, and were sure mueller would deliver!
Where did you read the Mueller report?
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:25 AM   #12179
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you keep moving the goalposts

this thread and the left have been screaming collusion and obstruction for 2 years, and were sure mueller would deliver!
Actually most of this thread has been saying for months now that the Mueller report wasn't going to do much of anything.
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:29 AM   #12180
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Actually most of this thread has been saying for months now that the Mueller report wasn't going to do much of anything.
ok if that is true I stand corrected i might have confused this thread with the msm
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:31 AM   #12181
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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

Also we’ve mostly been saying they’d uncover a ton of financial and other crimes from investigations, not necessarily a smoking gun for “collusion”...and those investigations are still ongoing...he’s committed so many crimes it’ll take years to sort it all out


Between the trump tower meeting, trump personally dictating the lying statement and manafort giving polling data to Russia, there was at least some collusion, but that doesn’t mean there will be hard evidence of trump himself being involved bc it was prolly all verbal with him

Also the obstruction of justice is out in the open and clear as day; he’s been doing that in the open and 40% of the country says “nothing to see here”
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:38 AM   #12182
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Yeah, I don't want to be building up expectations for myself or anyone else, but the reaction from Trump and his circle seems incredibly muted compared to how much Team MAGA is spiking the football. That seems off.
That ****er tweets like breathing air. Somebody told him something. Fingers crossed.
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:40 AM   #12183
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Silence means nothing

They are just waiting to see what it says/what will get released now before deciding how to play the response
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:43 AM   #12184
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Collusion as we understand it isn’t necessarily a crime. The poker “implicit” collusion is actually okay in antitrust law and in uncharted territory in other areas of law. In other words, what we know of Trump’s actions is legally murky and not clearly illegal.

He is still 100% immoral, unethical, and IMO impeachable.
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:45 AM   #12185
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:45 AM   #12186
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Definitely want to hear pizzagate morons analyze the mueller report for me
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Old 03-23-2019, 09:53 AM   #12187
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trump did not interfere in the investigation --the serious and sane one
 
Old 03-23-2019, 10:06 AM   #12188
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She just shredded the tiny bit of credibility she gained by resigning in my book.

The only reasons I still reserve judgment for some people in Trump’s admin are:
1. People need to feed families and some of them may have no better job offers
2. Some may be plants and actively working to contain Trump.

I think it’s obvious there were some people in camp 2 but Trump has weeded most of them out.

Conway, Pompeo, Perry, and SHS are definitely beyond redemption though.
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:11 AM   #12189
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Since I can't outright call mets a ****ing moron, I can at least tell him to shut up right?
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:14 AM   #12190
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politically the dems should let this go or they are going to make the same mistake the repubs made in 95

the latest usa poll says that 50% think mueller report was a witchunt, and that was before its release.

dems should concentrate on winning in 2020 without talking about russia or collusion or obstruction, or they will surely lose
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:23 AM   #12191
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politically the dems should let this go or they are going to make the same mistake the repubs made in 95

the latest usa poll says that 50% think mueller report was a witchunt, and that was before its release.

dems should concentrate on winning in 2020 without talking about russia or collusion or obstruction, or they will surely lose
So the allegations of sexual misconduct in the White House and conspiring with a foreign government to rig an election are equal.

Whatever man.

A foreign government did in fact meddle significantly in our election and it was very clear the point was to get Trump elected. Everyone in the USA has admitted as much except Trump himself. It's such a false equivalent. And I believe it was 98 not 95. And Bush won the presidency.

Your bad at this. Go troll somewhere else.
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Old 03-23-2019, 10:35 AM   #12192
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Between the trump tower meeting, trump personally dictating the lying statement and manafort giving polling data to Russia, there was at least some collusion, but that doesn’t mean there will be hard evidence of trump himself being involved bc it was prolly all verbal with him

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also the Wikileaks dump of stolen emails right after "Grab them by the pussy" tape dropped.
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Old 03-23-2019, 11:38 AM   #12194
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

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you keep moving the goalposts



this thread and the left have been screaming collusion and obstruction for 2 years, and were sure mueller would deliver!


1 The doj cant indict a sitting president
2. He mueller report didn’t indict the president


Morons

NO COLLUSION
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Old 03-23-2019, 11:46 AM   #12195
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trump did not interfere in the investigation --the serious and sane one
might not be the right thread, but I've heard that Trump is going to replace Pence with Haley since the D ticket will probably have at least one woman.
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Old 03-23-2019, 11:48 AM   #12196
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

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you keep moving the goalposts



this thread and the left have been screaming collusion and obstruction for 2 years, and were sure mueller would deliver!
What crime or crimes shown in the report would be sufficient for you to call for impeachment or at least vote for Bernie Sanders in 2020? No, you don't get to weasel out and vote third party. The point is to name a crime that you find such a big deal that it is imperative to defeat Trump, not just weakly not vote for him.
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Old 03-23-2019, 11:59 AM   #12197
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Silence means nothing

They are just waiting to see what it says/what will get released now before deciding how to play the response
With Donald J. Trump it means a lot. It is absolutely unprecedented. He doesn’t take counsel and there is no way he would not tweet just because advisors told him to wait and see.

So something is up. Who knows what or even in what direction.

Also in terms of the Mueller investigation I think when there was real concern around mid terms that it would be shut down that really it was just important to to seat a new house who can take over the investigation. While the AG determines what if anything is released I am pretty sure congress can get access to the full report. Given how massively quiet Mueller and his staff have been there is no expectation of explanations of hows or whys.

Anyways there has already been so much corruption, illegality and collusion around Trump and his campaign that we are past that. Several here have told the rest of us it’s a political process and the field is skewed and expectations should be tempered.

I wasn’t expecting a Colombo moment with the release. I think at some point there will be s straw break moment but it could happen after trump is out of office.

Back to the silence. It absolutely means something. It is impossible it is a coincidence.
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Old 03-23-2019, 12:01 PM   #12198
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Also we’ve mostly been saying they’d uncover a ton of financial and other crimes from investigations, not necessarily a smoking gun for “collusion”...and those investigations are still ongoing...he’s committed so many crimes it’ll take years to sort it all out


Between the trump tower meeting, trump personally dictating the lying statement and manafort giving polling data to Russia, there was at least some collusion, but that doesn’t mean there will be hard evidence of trump himself being involved bc it was prolly all verbal with him

Also the obstruction of justice is out in the open and clear as day; he’s been doing that in the open and 40% of the country says “nothing to see here”
To be fair to us and the lib mainstream media, STEVE BANNON said mueller would uncover a ton of financial and other crimes
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Old 03-23-2019, 12:09 PM   #12199
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Best case scenario for trump is the mueller report is 100% classified and blacked out leaving the only crimes the special counsel uncovered directly about trump to be that he directed his attorney to commit felony campaign finance fraud in the election he won by a margin of -2.1% of votes cast

Illegitimate,
Felonious,
Overall super dumb and childish,
clowny embarrassment of a
"president"
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Old 03-23-2019, 12:10 PM   #12200
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The Dem candidate for POTUS should not make Russia a center point of their campaign, but if Adam Schiff et al go after it as hard as possible that's fine. The Dem candidate should probably just list things like: Trump's National Security Advisor - Prison, Campaign manager - Prison, Lawyer - Prison, show some photos of Steve Banon and Sebastian Gorka etc and leave it at that.
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