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Old 03-20-2019, 12:22 AM   #11901
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Is there something in particular about that kid that makes Trump think there's something wrong with treating him badly?
im sure he would say the same thing if the kid was wearing a turbin.. give the potus the benefit of the doubt....

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Old 03-20-2019, 12:50 AM   #11902
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I used to like the idea of the Popular Vote, but now realize the Electoral College is far better for the U.S.A.
I used to like the idea of the Popular Vote, but now realize the Electoral College is far better for the U.S.A.
I used to like the idea of the Popular Vote, but now realize the Electoral College is far better for the U.S.A.
I used to like the idea of the Popular Vote, but now realize the Electoral College is far better for the U.S.A.
I used to like the idea of the Popular Vote, but now realize the Electoral College is far better for the U.S.A.
I used to like the idea of the Popular Vote, but now realize the Electoral College is far better for the U.S.A.
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Old 03-20-2019, 01:56 AM   #11903
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I'm sure that there are good arguments to abolish the Electoral College. So why do people use the dopey one? The circular reasoning one. Or begging the question? Or whatever the right word is. Actually I don't care if people use it. I only care that twoplustwoers do. That's not allowed.

If you said that the Electoral college is bad because it is immoral to have a system where the popular vote winner doesn't win, that's perfectly fine. But instead nitwits proclaim that "the clearest argument that the Electoral College should be abolished is that it sometimes results in a winner that didn't get the most popular votes". What? Of course it does, That is its reason for existence. It exists to CREATE that possibility. The talking heads argument boils down to "We shouldn't have a method that was designed to sometimes elect the popular vote loser because it sometimes elects the popular vote loser". Aristotle is turning over in his grave.
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Old 03-20-2019, 02:25 AM   #11904
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I'm sure that there are good arguments to abolish the Electoral College. So why do people use the dopey one? The circular reasoning one. Or begging the question? Or whatever the right word is. Actually I don't care if people use it. I only care that twoplustwoers do. That's not allowed.

If you said that the Electoral college is bad because it is immoral to have a system where the popular vote winner doesn't win, that's perfectly fine. But instead nitwits proclaim that "the clearest argument that the Electoral College should be abolished is that it sometimes results in a winner that didn't get the most popular votes". What? Of course it does, That is its reason for existence. It exists to CREATE that possibility. The talking heads argument boils down to "We shouldn't have a method that was designed to sometimes elect the popular vote loser because it sometimes elects the popular vote loser". Aristotle is turning over in his grave.
You're really just playing a semantics game at this point. Their argument is clearly that we should not use a method that elects the popular vote loser. If they word it in a way that doesn't explicitly say that, it's still pretty clear what they're arguing.

The dopey argument I keep seeing is that going to a proportional electoral vote will get candidates to campaign in small states more than going to the straight popular vote. It would have a very slight impact on that, and certainly not enough of one to change an optimal campaign strategy very much.
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Old 03-20-2019, 02:38 AM   #11905
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Christian County, Missouri GOP disinvites Sen. Roy Blunt from event because he voted against Trump's emergency declaration

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Lincoln/Trump Day!!!!!!
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Old 03-20-2019, 02:42 AM   #11906
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Also, if anyone was curious if Lindsey Graham would do anything other than "my name is Reek" in response to Trump dissing McCain, you got the answer you expected:

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Graham did respond to the tweets, standing up for his friend.

“As to @SenJohnMcCain and his devotion to his country: He stepped forward to risk his life for his country, served honorably under difficult circumstances, and was one of the most consequential senators in the history of the body,” Graham tweeted. He added, “Nothing about his service will ever be changed or diminished.”
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- Graham never mentions Trump or makes clear what he’s responding to.

- He doesn’t address Trump’s attacks on McCain’s vote or really do anything to defend McCain’s congressional record. In fact, Graham says only that McCain’s time as a senator was “consequential,” which is basically what Trump is saying — in a negative way. Other than that, he instead praises McCain in general terms for having “served” and for “his service.” The tweets are almost completely lacking in actual, substantial praise.

- He doesn’t respond directly to Trump’s false claims. Graham says nothing about Trump having effectively accused his friend of conspiring with Democrats and trying to stop his election. He also says nothing about Trump sharing former U.S. solicitor general Kenneth Starr’s allegation that McCain’s conduct with regard to the Steele dossier “is unfortunately a very dark stain against John McCain.”

It would be one thing to stand up for McCain’s actual conduct or even to rebut specific allegations without mentioning Trump, but Graham does none of that here. It’s about as vanilla a defense as you could imagine. It’s the kind of thing you would expect from basically any senator who is forced into commenting on Trump’s controversies.
A reporter could ask Lindsey Graham why he made those tweets about John McCain and he would not dare speak Trump's name. It's incredible.
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Old 03-20-2019, 02:58 AM   #11907
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I'm sure that there are good arguments to abolish the Electoral College. So why do people use the dopey one? The circular reasoning one. Or begging the question? Or whatever the right word is. Actually I don't care if people use it. I only care that twoplustwoers do. That's not allowed.

If you said that the Electoral college is bad because it is immoral to have a system where the popular vote winner doesn't win, that's perfectly fine. But instead nitwits proclaim that "the clearest argument that the Electoral College should be abolished is that it sometimes results in a winner that didn't get the most popular votes". What? Of course it does, That is its reason for existence. It exists to CREATE that possibility. The talking heads argument boils down to "We shouldn't have a method that was designed to sometimes elect the popular vote loser because it sometimes elects the popular vote loser". Aristotle is turning over in his grave.
this guy calling someone dopey? gave me a good lol
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:09 AM   #11908
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Lynzie is compromised. Probably sex stuff.
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:20 AM   #11909
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I'm sure that there are good arguments to abolish the Electoral College. So why do people use the dopey one? The circular reasoning one. Or begging the question? Or whatever the right word is. Actually I don't care if people use it. I only care that twoplustwoers do. That's not allowed.

If you said that the Electoral college is bad because it is immoral to have a system where the popular vote winner doesn't win, that's perfectly fine. But instead nitwits proclaim that "the clearest argument that the Electoral College should be abolished is that it sometimes results in a winner that didn't get the most popular votes". What? Of course it does, That is its reason for existence. It exists to CREATE that possibility. The talking heads argument boils down to "We shouldn't have a method that was designed to sometimes elect the popular vote loser because it sometimes elects the popular vote loser". Aristotle is turning over in his grave.
I think people are using a lot of arguments against the Electoral College because there are a lot of arguments against the electoral college while there are none for it.

The people who are for it are usually backward engineering a reason from the fact it helps them and going from there.
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:52 AM   #11910
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:56 AM   #11911
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sigh it's always projection with these types
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Old 03-20-2019, 07:59 AM   #11912
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:33 AM   #11913
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Okay okay I admit I’d watch kellyan spin that personally offensive and mysoginistic tweet in defense of rump.

Edit: Nevermind, I’m over it, **** the lot and their ****ing gameplay that diminishes all of us.

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Old 03-20-2019, 08:48 AM   #11914
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Old 03-20-2019, 08:48 AM   #11915
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There is some story here. I think KAC has something on Trump and its some weird sexual game between her and hubbo.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:02 AM   #11917
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George Conway is a Federalist Society turd married to a ghoul, but he is by any objective measure an extremely intelligent and successful person. Still, let’s not fall into the trap of instantly embracing Trumps enemies.

P.S. looooool at a partner at the most profitable law firm in America being jealous of his wife’s career lying for a sociopath for about 5% of his pay.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:18 AM   #11918
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George Conway is a Federalist Society turd married to a ghoul, but he is by any objective measure an extremely intelligent and successful person. Still, let’s not fall into the trap of instantly embracing Trumps enemies.

P.S. looooool at a partner at the most profitable law firm in America being jealous of his wife’s career lying for a sociopath for about 5% of his pay.
She's on TV, ipso facto, she has a more successful career, in the world of Donald.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:25 AM   #11919
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I still think it’s all a work.
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Old 03-20-2019, 09:38 AM   #11920
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I still think it’s all a work.
I think "work" almost gives it too much credit. It's like my daughter's middle school, where everybody looooooves to hate (and be hated by) each other and talk about it all day every day. The only way to lose is to not be talked about.
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:31 AM   #11923
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Smaller population states are already way over represented in Congress. There is absolutely zero reason for the president of all Americans to not be determined by most Americans.
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Old 03-20-2019, 10:33 AM   #11924
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Defrocked Priests need to work too.
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I'm sure that there are good arguments to abolish the Electoral College. So why do people use the dopey one? The circular reasoning one. Or begging the question? Or whatever the right word is. Actually I don't care if people use it. I only care that twoplustwoers do. That's not allowed.

If you said that the Electoral college is bad because it is immoral to have a system where the popular vote winner doesn't win, that's perfectly fine. But instead nitwits proclaim that "the clearest argument that the Electoral College should be abolished is that it sometimes results in a winner that didn't get the most popular votes". What? Of course it does, That is its reason for existence. It exists to CREATE that possibility. The talking heads argument boils down to "We shouldn't have a method that was designed to sometimes elect the popular vote loser because it sometimes elects the popular vote loser". Aristotle is turning over in his grave.
David this is not introduction to political discussion. Every simplistic and basic argument doesn’t need to be reestablished each time a topic comes up for discussion.

Having to have why the electoral college is a failure is one such instance.
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