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03-18-2019 , 09:39 PM

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03-18-2019 , 09:49 PM


i'm trying to imagine a president with more free time to ****post online than me and it's scary bros
03-18-2019 , 10:13 PM
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i'm trying to imagine a president with more free time to ****post online than me and it's scary bros
C'mon Asian, you can get the number one spot if you keep your head in the game and always be posting. Win one for Ojisan!

03-18-2019 , 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
In exciting news from my very minimal look inside the right wing bubble through a Facebook friend, he and some of his friends have declared that if a socialist wins in 2020, they will fight to the death to save the Constitution. I assume this means that if anyone left of John Kasich wins, they're going to grab their guns? They literally said in no uncertain terms that if a socialist wins, they support a civil war.

I think that's probably where we're headed. It's just a matter of the scale on which it happens. But after the next Democrat wins, we're going to see another huge uptick in right wing terrorism/violence.

He also said he wants to "get rid of" all Democrats and start the country over from scratch. I'm not sure if he wants to kill us, jail us, or deport us. I asked for some clarification...

I'm going to have to stop looking inside the bubble, it's too scary/depressing.

let him know that, astonishingly, liberals/democrats have guns too... The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: Harm to Ongoing Matter

03-18-2019 , 11:15 PM
Donald Trump stirs controversy with Breitbart interview about his 'tough' supporters

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Suspect in mob boss hit flashes pro-Trump slogans on hand
Anthony Comello, 24, was arrested Saturday in New Jersey in the death of Francesco “Franky Boy” Cali last week in front of his Staten Island home.

While waiting for a court hearing to begin in Toms River, N.J., in which he agreed to be extradited to New York, Comello held up his left hand.

On it were scrawled pro-Trump slogans including “MAGA Forever,” an abbreviation of Trump's campaign slogan “Make America Great Again.” It also read “United We Stand MAGA” and “Patriots In Charge.” In the center of his palm he had drawn a large circle. It was not immediately clear why he had done so.
03-18-2019 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by realDonaldTrump

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One of my former law school classmates said all that needs to be said re: this lawsuit:
03-18-2019 , 11:41 PM
Devin Nunes sucks so much I just, I can't handle it.
03-18-2019 , 11:44 PM
I had to look up EarthLink.

Spoiler:
56KBPS DIAL-UP WON'T DIE —
Dial-up pioneer EarthLink still exists, and it’s merging with Windstream
It's 2016, and EarthLink sells "Unlimited 56K dial-up access" for $25 per month.
https://arstechnica.com/information-...th-windstream/


I don't feel like I should be on that list of posters itt. You people behind me need to step it up.
03-18-2019 , 11:46 PM
A Mar-a-Lago Weekend and an Act of God: Trump’s History With Deutsche Bank
Then Mr. Trump won the 2016 election, and the German bank shifted into damage-control mode, bracing for an onslaught of public scrutiny, according to several people involved in the internal response.

In the weeks before Ms. Vrablic attended his swearing-in, the bank commissioned reports to figure out how it had gotten in so deep with Mr. Trump. It issued an unusual edict to its Wall Street employees: Do not publicly utter the word “Trump.”

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Deutsche Bank officials have quietly argued to regulators, lawmakers and journalists that Mr. Trump was not a priority for the bank or its senior leaders and that the lending was the work of a single, obscure division. But interviews with more than 20 current and former Deutsche Bank executives and board members, most of them with direct knowledge of the Trump relationship, contradict the bank’s narrative.

Over nearly two decades, Deutsche Bank’s leaders repeatedly saw red flags surrounding Mr. Trump. There was a disastrous bond sale, a promised loan that relied on a banker’s forged signature, wild exaggerations of Mr. Trump’s wealth, even a claim of an act of God.

But Deutsche Bank had a ravenous appetite for risk and limited concern about its clients’ reputations. Time after time, with the support of two different chief executives, the bank handed money — a total of well over $2 billion — to a man whom nearly all other banks had deemed untouchable.

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The bank recruited a handful of Goldman Sachs traders to lead a push into commercial real estate. One was Justin Kennedy, the son of Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy. Another was Mike Offit, whose father was the writer Sidney Offit.

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Mr. Trump soon came looking for $300 million for the construction of a skyscraper across from the United Nations headquarters. The loan was approved. He wanted hundreds of millions more for his Trump Marina casino in Atlantic City. Mr. Offit pledged to line up cash for that, too.

Not long after, Edson Mitchell, a top bank executive, discovered that the signature of the credit officer who had approved the Trump Marina deal had been forged, Mr. Offit said. (Mr. Offit was never accused of forgery; the loan never went through.)

Mr. Offit was fired months later. He said it was because Mr. Mitchell claimed that he was reckless, a charge Mr. Offit disputed.

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Over the next few years, the commercial real estate group, with Mr. Kennedy now in a senior role, kept lending to Mr. Trump, including to buy the General Motors building in Manhattan. Occasionally, Justice Kennedy stopped by Deutsche Bank’s offices to say hello to the team, executives recalled.

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Mr. Trump requested an audience with the bank’s bond salesmen.

According to a Deutsche Bank executive who heard the remarks, Mr. Trump gave a pep talk. “Fellas, I know this isn’t the easiest thing you’ve had to sell,” the executive recalled Mr. Trump saying. “But if you get this done, you’ll all be my guests at Mar-a-Lago,” his private club in Palm Beach, Fla.

The sales team managed to sell hundreds of millions of dollars worth of bonds. Mr. Trump was pleased with the results when a Deutsche Bank executive called, according to a person who heard the conversation.

“Don’t forget what you promised our guys,” the executive reminded him.

Mr. Trump said he did not remember and that he doubted the salesmen actually expected to be taken to Mar-a-Lago.

“That’s all they’ve talked about the past week,” the executive replied.

Mr. Trump ultimately flew about 15 salesmen to Florida on his Boeing 727. They spent a weekend golfing with Mr. Trump, two participants said.

A year later, in 2004, Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts defaulted on the bonds. Deutsche Bank’s clients suffered steep losses. This arm of the investment-banking division stopped doing business with Mr. Trump.

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In a Trump Tower meeting, he told Mr. Kennedy that his daughter Ivanka would be in charge of the Chicago project, a sign of the family’s commitment to its success.

But there were warning signs.

Mr. Trump told Deutsche Bank his net worth was about $3 billion, but when bank employees reviewed his finances, they concluded he was worth about $788 million, according to documents produced during a lawsuit Mr. Trump brought against the former New York Times journalist Timothy O’Brien. And a senior investment-banking executive said in an interview that he and others cautioned that Mr. Trump should be avoided because he had worked with people in the construction industry connected to organized crime.

Nonetheless, Deutsche Bank agreed in 2005 to lend Mr. Trump more than $500 million for the project. He personally guaranteed $40 million of it, meaning the bank could come after his personal assets if he defaulted.

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Days before the loan was due, Mr. Trump sued Deutsche Bank, citing the force majeure language and seeking $3 billion in damages. Deutsche Bank countersued and demanded payment of the $40 million that Mr. Trump had personally guaranteed.

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Mr. Trump flew Ms. Vrablic to Miami to show her a property he wanted to buy: the Doral Golf Resort and Spa. He needed more than $100 million for the 72-hole property.

Deutsche Bank dispatched a team to Trump Tower to inspect Mr. Trump’s personal and corporate financial records. The bankers determined he was overvaluing some of his real estate assets by as much as 70 percent, according to two former executives.

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In early 2014, Mr. Trump and his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, approached Ms. Vrablic about more potential loans.

The owner of the Buffalo Bills had died, and the N.F.L. franchise was up for sale. Mr. Trump was interested, and he needed to show the league he had the financial wherewithal to pull off a transaction that could top $1 billion.

Mr. Trump asked Ms. Vrablic if the bank would be willing to make a loan and handed over bare-bones financial statements that estimated his net worth at $8.7 billion.

Mr. Cohen testified to Congress last month that the documents exaggerated Mr. Trump’s wealth. Deutsche Bank executives had reached a similar conclusion. They nonetheless agreed to vouch for Mr. Trump’s bid, according to an executive involved.
03-18-2019 , 11:49 PM

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03-19-2019 , 12:10 AM
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Nice change of tone the last month or two by cuserounder about possibility everything's going to ashes after the election.
Pretty sad it took 2 years+ for you to reach these conclusions.
Now imagine about the rest of the population that isn't as smart as you and cannot write/express themselves as well, and you realize nothing will be done to change this.

Also worth noting that discussing socialism with trumpkins is useless, they just hate how the word sounds.
I would say the only thing that has changed is that the probability of everything going to **** has gone up... But it stands to reason that this would change quite significantly from four years out to two years out... Especially as the odds of taking the Senate in 2020 remain pretty low, and as we see just how far the erosion of norms has gone.

Meanwhile, the right wing people I encounter on Facebook (which is like two people from the poker room I used to play in) are openly calling for civil war if a socialist wins in 2020, and telling me that I don't know how serious it's going to get and I better hope I picked the winning side.

I feel like WAAF, so much more than we realize. I guess the standard counter is that people aren't going to resort to violence if their day to day lives stay mostly okay, but I think we're in for an increase in MAGA-bomber type "lone wolf" attacks from right wing terrorists.

I know that whoever wins the nomination will be labeled a socialist, and a lot of these nut jobs will think it is their patriotic duty to try to assassinate that person. I'm terrified one of them will succeed. Also, I think we're probably going to see a major left-wing protest or political rally or convention attacked in the next couple of years, and I hope and pray I'm wrong or that the scale of it isn't nearly what I fear. I worry a little bit about it every time I go to the Women's March or any big public gathering of liberals.

In reality, none of that will probably lead to a civil war, we'll just do the whole thoughts and prayers thing and condemn it and they'll crank down the heated rhetoric for like 24 hours, and Trump or someone else on the right will do the "very fine people" thing, then we'll all go back about our business - except for the ones of us killed/injured.

Then we'll go back to the normal way things work these days in America... When the Democrats have power we'll get incremental half measures that don't accomplish much, then we'll get four to eight years of all out assault on our norms and democracy.

I think 2020 is our last chance to really prevent that, and I don't have a lot of optimism that the Dems won't **** it up one way or another. The odds of getting a presidential candidate willing to truly fight for an HR1-plus type reform, and of having him/her win, and of holding the Senate and the House at the same time is pretty low...

Probably time for me to take a break from all of this, because it certainly isn't healthy for me and there's not a whole lot I can do.
03-19-2019 , 12:34 AM

Suspected mob boss killer writes ‘MAGA Forever,’ QAnon symbol on his hand
He showed off the handiwork while seated in the jury box before the judge entered, smirking as he turned to face the reporters and government workers who packed the courtroom.
A court officer who noticed Comello holding his hand out asked why he was doing it.

“Why not? I’m handcuffed,” he answered.
03-19-2019 , 01:05 AM
According to the poker acquaintance I just unfriended and blocked on Facebook, an account or organization being labeled as white supremacists or a hate group is totally just my opinion and objective, and the Southern Poverty Law Center is racist and fraudulent.

Odds this is along the lines of the SHS response if she's ever asked about this?
03-19-2019 , 06:17 AM
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I’m surprised he was tweeting so late, I figured he’d be getting ready for his big date today.
03-19-2019 , 07:51 AM
In between the witch hunt, baby killing and socialism the Republicans are so so much better at effective messaging that your average simpleton can understand. Meanwhile on the left you have people like Warren on the campaign trail talking about breaking up companies and reparations. Being principled doesn't matter one bit if you can't brand yourself in a way that can win elections.

The Dems will never learn and we all suffer for it. They literally play right into the hands of these monsters over and over. I'm sick of it.
03-19-2019 , 08:25 AM

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03-19-2019 , 08:35 AM

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03-19-2019 , 08:42 AM
Yeah Parscale's a loser we know this already
03-19-2019 , 08:46 AM
03-19-2019 , 08:57 AM
lovely, ty OP
03-19-2019 , 08:58 AM

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1107988316572581889
03-19-2019 , 09:28 AM
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Devin Nunes sucks so much I just, I can't handle it.
The internet has caused nothing but trouble imo. It's about time somebody sued it.
03-19-2019 , 09:31 AM

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03-19-2019 , 09:34 AM
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Devin Nunes sucks so much I just, I can't handle it.
My first impulse on seeing the lawsuit was to go on Twitter and defame Nunez but he is not worth the time.

      
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