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Old 03-12-2019, 11:49 AM   #11201
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

DOJ bringing down college admissions fraud ring today (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...g-plot-n982136)

But hasn't yet brought down the Trump Org
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:06 PM   #11202
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DOJ bringing down college admissions fraud ring today (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...g-plot-n982136)

But hasn't yet brought down the Trump Org
To be fair that fraud ring was pretty bad, more LOL at how the rich get crazy advantages.
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:14 PM   #11203
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These smug climate scientists have lost touch with regular people who read a science blog once. Who wants to hear my opinion on climate change?
So ****ing true man
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:16 PM   #11204
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I like the idea of coal-powered 737's. Anything to get us back to the days when there wasn't so much technology and stuff.
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:16 PM   #11205
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:24 PM   #11206
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I like the idea of coal-powered 737's. Anything to get us back to the days when there wasn't so much technology and stuff.
Just as long as we put the split second decision making back where it should be: in the hands of tired, dumb pilots and not some complex computer system.
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:49 PM   #11207
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Crazy, someone approached me a while ago trying to sniff me out about potentially taking college entrance exams for other people. Was a pretty easy no but i wonder how close to this that guy was.
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Old 03-12-2019, 12:56 PM   #11208
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Just as long as we put the split second decision making back where it should be: in the hands of tired, dumb pilots and not some complex computer system.
Depends.

Complex system failures are, well, complex. As I understand it, one of the main cornerstones of the theory is that generally speaking a single "error" rarely is enough to crash the system - it generally takes a sequence of improbably occurrences to cause system failure. Any change to a complex system introduces potential for new forms of failure - which seems to be likely involved here with new software introduced that the pilots either weren't trained enough in - or worse yet were incorrectly trained in to deal with whatever happened. Pilots aren't dumb - or at least aren't dumb about flying. They may be dumb about something they haven't been exposed to.

Way too soon to know what happened on these two flights - but it's concerning that weather doesn't seem to be an issue and that AFAIK no one is suggesting that these were controlled flights into terrain types of accidents, and there are no credible reports of structural failure prior to the crashes - the planes just more or less fell out of the sky. Some sort of software **** up seems most likely. We'll see....

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Old 03-12-2019, 01:02 PM   #11209
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Airplanes are difficult to fly I just canít
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:11 PM   #11210
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To everyone complaining about airport food in the US all I can say is, don't visit Heathrow or Gatwick.

Of the cities so far not named, Charlotte also has a really nice airport with easy access. New Orleans was a dump, but it was nice to be welcomed by an actual live band at baggage claim. Not sure if they still do that but it was pretty awesome.

Still PSP is the best. Gotta love an open air terminal in the California sunshine.

FYI New Orleans literally is opening a brand new entire airport this year. I doubt they've put a lot of effort into improving the current one over the last few years.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:14 PM   #11211
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There's already a name for the Jewish Exodus. It's called "Exodus". This one should "Exodus II - this one is also mostly fiction"
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:19 PM   #11212
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:40 PM   #11213
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Way too soon to know what happened on these two flights - but it's concerning that weather doesn't seem to be an issue and that AFAIK no one is suggesting that these were controlled flights into terrain types of accidents, and there are no credible reports of structural failure prior to the crashes - the planes just more or less fell out of the sky. Some sort of software **** up seems most likely.

Quoting myself, but whatever. Thinking about it a little more, the software statement is a little bit too much handwavy. From what I can tell, it's a VERY small debris field, meaning the plane hit the ground nose down going VERY fast - which could mean the plane had stalled for some reason, in which case the remedy is nose down speed up - and they ran out of altitude before they could recover. Or, some kind of catastrophic mechanical problem occurred which resulted in a dive into the ground that the pilots couldn't control - or suicide, like the German Wings flight. The small debris field makes a terrorist attack less likely - an explosive decompression event could explain it, as the only piece of the plane missing initially would be a cargo door which might be tough to determine - and if the event caused loss of the control equipment, the low altitude would result in a small area of impact, rather than scattering debris all over. But the pilot seemed to know he was in trouble, he just couldn't figure out what was going on. Pilot error seems less likely given the 8000 hours of experience - but if the pilot had some sort of medical disaster the copilot was VERY green - only 200 hours. At least a possible issue, I suppose.

I think the first one is most likely - failure to recover from a stall. The question is why the stall occurred. At relatively low altitudes like this flight, problems with the pitot tubes/airspeed indicators would be the most likely cause, but AFAIK the pilots didn't say anything to indicate they were worried about that sort of problem. They just said they couldn't control the plane, which could mean any number of things. The data recorders should help a lot, if the data is recoverable - which Boeing better hope it is. Planes falling out fo the sky - bad. Planes falling out of sky for no reason, or at least for no reason you can determine, could put you out of business.

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Old 03-12-2019, 01:55 PM   #11214
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Sounds like the worst US airports are those at world cities that accommodate a million people a week and the best are in podunk towns with 10 flights a day. Interesting.
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Old 03-12-2019, 01:56 PM   #11215
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DOJ bringing down college admissions fraud ring today (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...g-plot-n982136)

But hasn't yet brought down the Trump Org
I'll take Meaningless Comparisons for $1000, Alex.
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Old 03-12-2019, 02:00 PM   #11216
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To be fair that fraud ring was pretty bad, more LOL at how the rich get crazy advantages.
Bad... or Rad?

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Old 03-12-2019, 02:02 PM   #11217
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While we are at it, why am I wasting my time two hours in a security line. Time to go back to mingling at the gate for whoever the hell wants to be there.
This is bad point because the TSA is pure theatre. Itís tested over and over and something like 70-95% of contraband gets through.
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Old 03-12-2019, 02:15 PM   #11218
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Sounds like the worst US airports are those at world cities that accommodate a million people a week and the best are in podunk towns with 10 flights a day. Interesting.
yeah. i show up at the airport in my city 25 minutes before flights and have no problems with anything. i mean i can fly about 3-4 places directly, but the airport itself is a breeze.
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Old 03-12-2019, 02:18 PM   #11219
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/11/u...hner-book.html

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If there is sympathy in Ms. Ward’s book for her protagonists, it is found in explaining how they grew up. Ms. Trump, she wrote, was wealthy but isolated. When she went to tour Choate Rosemary Hall, the elite Connecticut boarding school where she would attend high school, Ms. Trump arrived in a white stretch limousine. But she emerged from the car all by herself. “No one was there with her,” said her tour guide, who remained anonymous in the book.

Mr. Kushner’s father, meanwhile, had been grooming his son since childhood to become his successor in the family real estate company, Kushner Companies. When Mr. Kushner went away to Harvard, Ms. Ward wrote, his parents had a business associate keep an eye on him — by taking him out for dinner and reporting back on his activities — to make sure he was not dating non-Jews or doing drugs.

When Mr. Kushner and Ms. Trump decided to get married, both sets of parents were skeptical. Ms. Trump eventually won over the Kushners with her commitment to a grueling religious conversion regimen and her apparent intense desire to become part of a close-knit family.

Mr. Trump, meanwhile, did not understand why his daughter had to change her religion for anyone, even though he liked Mr. Kushner. He would joke that Ms. Trump could have married Tom Brady, the quarterback for the New England Patriots, and once joked to Robert K. Kraft, the team’s owner, that “Jared is half the size of Tom Brady’s forearm.”
I know it's been posted before but the shots at Jared are incredible. I will say Trump is right about the religious thing, though.
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Old 03-12-2019, 02:21 PM   #11220
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Iíve got a flight via Southwest on a 737 MAX next month to a poker tournament. I understand that these incidents are so tiny with how many flights there are, but part of me wants to change my flight.


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Old 03-12-2019, 02:39 PM   #11221
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I’ve got a flight via Southwest on a 737 MAX next month to a poker tournament. I understand that these incidents are so tiny with how many flights there are, but part of me wants to change my flight.


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i would cancel that flight right now and if they couldn't refund me i'd just take the loss

please everybody just make a thread about airplanes and air travel if you're not gonna talk about trump

he stole a championship from one of his club members because simply being president of the united states still isn't enough for him. we're a don jr indictment away from invading ottawa
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Old 03-12-2019, 02:40 PM   #11222
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Crazy, someone approached me a while ago trying to sniff me out about potentially taking college entrance exams for other people. Was a pretty easy no but i wonder how close to this that guy was.
People approach me ALL the time (like once every other month or so) about potentially taking GMAT/GRE/LSAT. I've been offered 10k+ at times. Some people really think nothing of cheating.
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Old 03-12-2019, 02:50 PM   #11223
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There's already a name for the Jewish Exodus. It's called "Exodus". This one should "Exodus II - this one is also mostly fiction"
This is a Singapore Airport-level post.
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Old 03-12-2019, 03:24 PM   #11224
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Iíve got a flight via Southwest on a 737 MAX next month to a poker tournament. I understand that these incidents are so tiny with how many flights there are, but part of me wants to change my flight.


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1-how do you know it's a max?
2-which is not the 737-800
3-when airplanes get swapped out frequently anyway
4-and if it is a systemic problem the planes will likely be grounded by then

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Old 03-12-2019, 03:54 PM   #11225
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1-how do you know it's a max?
2-which is not the 737-800
3-when airplanes get swapped out frequently anyway
4-and if it is a systemic problem the planes will likely be grounded by then

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1. Seat Guru
2. Itís a Max
3. Cant answer that.
4. Precautions seems reasonable even if itís a 1% chance of occurring again.


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