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03-06-2019, 06:04 PM
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#10626
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WITCH HUNT!
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Golfing at Mar-a-Lago
Posts: 2,921
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03-06-2019, 06:27 PM
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#10627
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veteran
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,259
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by dth123451
Trump knows he’s likely to go to jail once he leaves office; the only thing shielding him is the office he holds. If he loses, he won’t go quietly.
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Even without the jail prospects (which are important) I think Trump would be a huge national security liability in that two month + period after he loses the election and before the inauguration of the next president. This possibility has only been lightly touched on in this thread and barely at all in the media. But if the polls show him losing by a lot, I think its going to become a huge issue as the election approaches. In normal times, with a non-brainwashed GOP, I would expect an impeachment/conviction or a 25th amendment enactment to snowball very quickly. And maybe that will happen, since the GOP won't have much else to lose at that point, but judging by the state of their loyalty, probably not.
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03-06-2019, 06:30 PM
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#10628
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Not interesting enough
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Scotland
Posts: 48,295
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by Namath12
This is hilarious if you read it in Deckard Cain's voice!
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LOL
Makes me want to get back into the Diablo series.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kep
Trump is just going to call any election that he loses fake news.
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I'm still waiting for him to declare a national emergency on voter fraud in order to delay the 2020 election if not prevent it from ever happening.
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
FL is where all the old boomers with money are going to retire, **** ain't going blue any time soon
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South America, take it away!
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03-06-2019, 06:45 PM
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#10629
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veteran
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 3,108
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by cuserounder
Yeah, I mean in the context of what I was responding to (that Trump needs to carry all of FL, MI, WI, PA), I think you have to start from 2016. If you're saying he needs to carry all of those four, I think you're just assuming he's carried everything else he carried in 2016, right?
I don't know if 2008 is a good one to use for 2020. I can't see Ohio or Indiana going blue, for example, but Arizona could. North Carolina would be in play or lean Dem in a free/fair election - we'll see if they have one there. So would Georgia, for that matter - they won't be having one.
But anyway I think the likelihood of the 2008 map being the best basis for 2020 is pretty low, even if the total electoral vote expected value is closer to 2008 than any other recent election. (I don't think it is yet, but it could be.)
In other words, the way the parties are aligned and based on the Trump coalition and what states are in play, it's better to start from 2016.
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Yeah sorry, I might not have read your post in context.. I just skipped to the end of the thread. My overall point was that 2020 could be a huge turnout surge (~60%+) with one candidate getting over 70 million votes. If that’s the case (which isn’t crazy given house dem candidates almost beat Trumps vote total in the midterms[!!]) you don’t even really have to go state by state. Republicans can’t realistically overcome a 5 point popular vote deficit even with their electoral college advantages. Of course there are reasons why that might be a bad way to look at 2020. Liberal apathy is one of the most powerful forces in American politics and the midterms could be an anomaly with presidential turnout being the standard 55% giving republicans a chance to get lucky again or even win the popular vote out right.
But if I had to bet I would say the dem in 2020 breaks Obama’s total vote count record from 2008 which would make it virtually impossible for Trump to overcome and win reelection.
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03-06-2019, 06:47 PM
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#10630
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: It's hard to get by on a smile
Posts: 29,115
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Maybe he doesn't think his name is literally Tim Apple, but it sounds funny.
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03-06-2019, 06:48 PM
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#10631
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Revisionist Historian
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Obstruct Everything
Posts: 55,817
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
"This time young people will vote!"
Forgive me if I don't buy that one this time either.
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What were the 18-35 numbers in 2018?
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03-06-2019, 07:11 PM
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#10632
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27th level thinker
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 76,978
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Maybe he doesn't think his name is literally Tim Apple, but it sounds funny.
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Like a dumber Michael Scott with names; Mr Scott at least went from the mnemonic to the right name; Trump is too lazy to go from Apple to Apple Pie to Bake to Cook
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03-06-2019, 07:42 PM
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#10633
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 14,721
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Why is Ivanka there and what does her placard say?
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03-06-2019, 07:43 PM
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#10634
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For President
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: DO NOT CONGRATULATE
Posts: 33,234
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
She's Dotard Donald's Doting Daughter
Assistant to the president
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03-06-2019, 07:44 PM
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#10635
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27th level thinker
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 76,978
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
“Princess - heir apparent to the throne”
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03-06-2019, 07:44 PM
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#10636
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2012
Location: GOATish measurables
Posts: 47,108
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
It’s utterly amazing how brazenly these assclowns talk ‘will of the people’ when defending a president who lost the popular vote
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03-06-2019, 07:57 PM
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#10637
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WITCH HUNT!
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Golfing at Mar-a-Lago
Posts: 2,921
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03-06-2019, 08:02 PM
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#10638
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WITCH HUNT!
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Golfing at Mar-a-Lago
Posts: 2,921
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03-06-2019, 08:02 PM
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#10639
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emo gaylord
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Doing the deal
Posts: 21,857
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
I don't know about anybody else but I for one am definitely accusing you of some crimes.
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03-06-2019, 08:06 PM
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#10640
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WITCH HUNT!
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: Golfing at Mar-a-Lago
Posts: 2,921
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03-06-2019, 08:09 PM
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#10641
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: unstuckpolitics.com
Posts: 12,727
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Do it.
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03-06-2019, 08:11 PM
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#10642
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 21,247
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
he was gonna do that anyway
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03-06-2019, 08:23 PM
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#10643
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 14,983
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
what's the debate thing?
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03-06-2019, 08:31 PM
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#10644
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LYNCH DURRON597
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Saving Sinners
Posts: 35,283
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by Slighted
what's the debate thing?
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Democrats didn't want to do a primary debate on Fox News because duh
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03-06-2019, 08:37 PM
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#10645
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 55,869
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by WichitaDM
Why is Ivanka there and what does her placard say?
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I challenge anyone to provide a legitimate reason for Ivanka to be at the WH beyond the fact that she’s spawn of Trump’s orange seed. She does nothing and has no purpose
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03-06-2019, 08:41 PM
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#10646
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Not interesting enough
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Scotland
Posts: 48,295
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Primary debates are Jerry Springer episodes of politics.
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03-06-2019, 08:43 PM
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#10647
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: L.H.O.O.Q.
Posts: 14,609
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
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Originally Posted by Namath12
I challenge anyone to provide a legitimate reason for Ivanka to be at the WH beyond the fact that she’s spawn of Trump’s orange seed. She does nothing and has no purpose
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Counterweight to SHS.
There you have it.
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03-06-2019, 08:48 PM
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#10648
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Ooh, you lucky bastard
Posts: 4,114
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
She’s curtailing Trumps worse excesses I believe. At least that’s what the NYT etc report every now and again.
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03-06-2019, 08:54 PM
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#10649
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Just tries harder
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Social Justice Rogue
Posts: 20,071
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Quote:
Originally Posted by superleeds
Sources close to her (lol) say, she’s curtailing Trumps worse excesses I believe. At least that’s what the NYT etc report every now and again.
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fyp
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03-06-2019, 08:58 PM
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#10650
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Not interesting enough
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Scotland
Posts: 48,295
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency
Quote:
Originally Posted by superleeds
She’s curtailing Trumps worse excesses I believe. At least that’s what the NYT etc report every now and again.
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That's a myth people were telling themselves to maintain their sanity.
She's exactly as deplorable as her father is. She's just smarter and more subtle about it. I'd argue that she's probably the most dangerous Trump in the family aside from her father because of that image.
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