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Old 03-01-2019, 11:29 PM   #10151
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Re: The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: State of Emergency

grunching here.

i look at alot of analysis and also do my own the 2020 presidential votes and state's voting records in general.

after looking at probably 20 separate analysis, this is all i've seen;

all analysis i've seen has michigan and wisconsin going back to democrats. seems almost certain in my view. hilary was horrible in these states, even in the D primaries. any other candidate would have done better and won these states. hilary would have won them if the FBI didn't get involved in the last week.

most analysis has pennsylvania going D........ unclear to me but it went pretty big for obama. so it makes sense it goes back to D.

then a few pundits i saw have iowa and arizona going D.

so basically from hours and hours of analysis, there is movement in only 5 states, all of them going D. basically 3 states that most people have switching to D... note: if beto is the candidate, then texas comes into play and then the R are dead if he wins texas.

but basically michigan/wisconsin/pennsylvania gives D the presidency.

democrats and republicans have a lock on so many states these days. not too many swing states left..... of course, things change. but wisconsin and michigan were almost unprecedented in terms of shockers, wisconsin especially
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Old 03-01-2019, 11:31 PM   #10152
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I'm struggling to picture "well-educated young people" think that it's some act of bravery to visit ****ing Prague.
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Old 03-01-2019, 11:31 PM   #10153
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in terms of safety, i'd take venezuela over yemen over north korea.

i'm thinking big cities of course...... you can probably just stay at the sheraton in caracas. very little stress.

yemen and north korea don't have any infrastructure to support westerners visiting.
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Old 03-01-2019, 11:36 PM   #10154
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We need to start a thread in here to discuss travel and life experiences, the regs here have a wealth of knowledge and experience.
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My experience is out of date so not going to contribute but I do have some questions.
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Old 03-01-2019, 11:38 PM   #10155
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A Bachelor's degree requires little more than a pulse at some universities.
Agreed, but a Bachelor's degree ≠ "well educated" imo.
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Old 03-02-2019, 12:09 AM   #10156
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Yeah, I like this idea.

It certainly doesn't belong ITT; it's sort of LC thread-adjacent, but doesn't really fit there great either, as the topics change too frequently.

But I really like the idea. It would have potential to be one of best threads in the forum. I feel like suzzer should start it.
Maybe a kindly mod can just excise the derail from here to start it?
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Old 03-02-2019, 12:12 AM   #10157
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Would you go to NK today? You're clearly aware of the Warmbier thing, so you obviously wouldn't do anything remotely like that. And it sounds like you would value the experience.
Yeah I would if I had limitless the free time and money. I mean your odds if not a missionary, secret journalist or humanitarian seem really really low.

But I'd be nervous and scared the whole time and I'd be thrilled when it was over.

So given that and not having endless free time there are a ton of other places in the world I still haven't seen where I wouldn't be terrified the whole trip.
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Old 03-02-2019, 12:18 AM   #10158
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You literally started the post saying yes then finished by saying, in effect, NK is the last (or something close to last) place on earth you’d visit.
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Old 03-02-2019, 12:19 AM   #10159
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This. Among developed nations, America is actually fairly dangerous when it comes to violent crime. It's even more dangerous than a whole lot of developing countries. Yet, Americans don't feel scared to walk around their own country.

Another thing when it comes to travelling overseas is that most Americans don't do a whole lot of it. When they do, it's normally really expensive. There's a lot of risk involved in going to a place you might not be familiar with in lieu of a place like Paris or London where you know for sure that you'll enjoy yourself.

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I've always wanted to go on a modified version of the Silk Road (obv have to go around the war zones) or a trip along the Trans-Siberian Railroad in the future. It'd be an interesting journey on par with the Epic European Vacation I took in 2017. It might be something that will have to wait for a while though.
Yeah Americans read about bad neighborhoods in San Salvador and freak the **** out. Then you ask them if they'd go walking in the worst neighborhoods in major US cities late at night and they're like - well no but we know that. Something about the unknown.

The key to me is just remember that everywhere you go on earth is just gonna be 99.x% good people just trying to raise their kids in peace. The only times things get really out of whack for foreigners imo is when you have a cult-like religion which hates your existence or over-zealous secret police tracking you. Even super high crime areas are still going to have mostly normal families just trying to live their lives who will absolutely help a stranger in trouble.

I did the last leg of the Trans-Siberian from Irkutsk to Ulan-Bataar. That was good for me. The whole thing would get really old imo unless you break it up a lot - which means you need many months.
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Old 03-02-2019, 12:22 AM   #10160
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in terms of safety, i'd take venezuela over yemen over north korea.

i'm thinking big cities of course...... you can probably just stay at the sheraton in caracas. very little stress.

yemen and north korea don't have any infrastructure to support westerners visiting.
Yes - if you want to just hang out at the Sheraton in Venezuala you're probably ok. I was talking about actually seeing any of the country w/o an army of protection. I'll take my chances in NK over that in a heartbeat.

I have no idea about Yemen as I've never even considered going there.
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Old 03-02-2019, 12:26 AM   #10161
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You literally started the post saying yes then finished by saying, in effect, NK is the last (or something close to last) place on earth you’d visit.
A ton of other places != last.

NK would be a struggle for me because I know it wouldn't be much fun but I have a feeling when it's all over I'd be really glad I did it and richer for it. But there are plenty of other places I'd get a lot out of as well, and have some fun at least, w/o the risk.

Say on one extreme is sitting on a beach in Cancun. It's pleasant, you get to drink pina coladas. But when you go back you're not really any richer for it, just more relaxed. But maybe if you live in the midwest, it's February, and your job is super stressful - this is exactly what you need.

On the other end is uncomfortable, somewhat risky, awkward stuff like staying with some indigenous family in the jungle while you sweat and get eaten alive by bugs. You learn a lot and come back with all kinds of experience and great stories - and hopefully no bot fly larvae growing under your skin. But it wasn't all that fun or relaxing.

To me, every vacation is somewhere on that spectrum. I try to force myself into at least some adventurous/enriching stuff, even though a big part of me just wants to sit at an outdoor cafe somewhere and drink while I watch the world go by. But I know if I don't get some adventure in I won't feel as recharged when I get back.

You go to NK and have an experience like the tea shop girl - it stays with you your whole life. You look at your own world a little differently because of it.

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Old 03-02-2019, 12:28 AM   #10162
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There was a PRI story this week about an Australian attending uni in NK. You guys are going to love this guy. Doing his master's on romance in the DPRK.

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Among them: Alek Sigley, a 29-year-old Australian who speaks fluent Korean. He’s one of very few students hailing from a nation that is aligned with Pyongyang’s historic rival: the “imperialist aggressor” United States. (Almost all of the other students come from China.)
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Twitter appears to be officially banned in North Korea. But Sigley says authorities have neither complained about his posts nor censored them. He is also blessed with another perk: freedom to roam the capital without a government minder and visit shops off-limits to tourists.
I hope nothing happens to him. I'd feel bad if his last tweet was
ARGHHH NOOooo.

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Old 03-02-2019, 12:36 AM   #10163
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I would guess that Warmbler was not a good outcome for them and they probably don't want it to happen again. Clearly if they wanted another Warmbler they could just start framing people like the Aussie guy and holding them as bargaining chips.
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Old 03-02-2019, 01:34 AM   #10164
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You literally started the post saying yes then finished by saying, in effect, NK is the last (or something close to last) place on earth you’d visit.
This is true for any rational person. So what. Although I would probaby visit NK before Disney Land so there's that.

At least NK would be novel. Disney Land is just an endless slog of geting ****ed by your corporate overlords while you are told it is the best place on earth.
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Old 03-02-2019, 02:45 AM   #10165
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Speaking of travel, today I learned there is a direct flight from Kansas City to Reykjavik in the summer on M/W/F - and my mind is blown to smithereens.

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Old 03-02-2019, 03:33 AM   #10166
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Iceland always has crazy cheap tix, it's just super expensive once you get there
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Old 03-02-2019, 03:45 AM   #10167
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I think there were years when "Kansas City International Airport" (aka MCI for some reason) literally only had one or two international flights - to Mexico or Canada.

I'm pretty sure they had to work some years to make sure they didn't lose the I in MCI and become a regional airport.

And now I find out they have a nonstop all the way to Iceland. Crazy pills.
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Old 03-02-2019, 03:59 AM   #10168
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I want to go to Iceland. Some things may be expensive, but they have freedom - The Right to Roam. You can camp on pretty much any uncultivated land, public or private. A few weeks roaming, camping, stay in an airbnb a few times sounds pretty good and not very expensive.

Once in a while that have like $99 flights to Iceland.
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Old 03-02-2019, 04:03 AM   #10169
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For landscape photographers it's basically a pilgrimage to go to Iceland at some point.
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Old 03-02-2019, 04:04 AM   #10170
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I would guess the death rate of Americans visiting North Korea is lower than all South American countries and most European countries.
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Old 03-02-2019, 04:07 AM   #10171
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My Dad was absolutely terrified the entire time I was in Mexico and Central America. FWIW he's a massive liberal - but still just thinks you die if you go down there.

The funny part is he lives at 40th and Warwick in KC - which is a neighborhood that tons of people in the suburbs feel the same way about that he feels about Central America - you are risking your life to even go there.

I've tried to get this point through to him to no avail.
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Old 03-02-2019, 05:28 AM   #10172
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No offense to you nice people, but what the hell is going on with this thread?
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Old 03-02-2019, 05:34 AM   #10173
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My Dad was absolutely terrified the entire time I was in Mexico and Central America. FWIW he's a massive liberal - but still just thinks you die if you go down there.

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most Americans think anywhere outside USA or western Europe is unsafe.
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Old 03-02-2019, 05:40 AM   #10174
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No offense to you nice people, but what the hell is going on with this thread?
Please report to mods to they'll excise to a politards-travel thread. Oh hell I'll just report myself for this post
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Old 03-02-2019, 05:41 AM   #10175
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Iceland is really nice. Recommend it. The natural beauty there is more ends-of-the-earth desolate than it is stunning (you know, majestic fjords like in Norway) but it's very beautiful all the same. The people are great. Iceland remains the one and only place that I have been standing talking with a couple other men in a bar and the group was approached by a woman, on her own, who was clearly aiming to pick someone up. (A survey by Durex once supposedly showed that Icelanders have sex more frequently than any other country. My taxi driver from the airport said to me "here in Iceland, in the summer, we fish and we ****. In the winter, we don't fish.")
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