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02-21-2019 , 04:03 PM

#8651

synth_floyd

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He blames one of his "volunteers" for posting it but when he asked who specifically did it, no one will admit to it.

And he was only able to name 2 of his 6 supposed volunteers.

Seems like he'll at least get a full gag order. Wonder if the judge will revoke his bail completely.

02-21-2019 , 04:03 PM

#8652

Strontium Dog

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 356

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

LMAO how much did his lawyers charge him for this

ah the old "swastika as a peace symbol" defence

02-21-2019 , 04:04 PM

#8653

biggerboat

you're gonna need one

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 48,461

Quote:

Originally Posted by alazo1985

One can only hope.

02-21-2019 , 04:06 PM

#8654

biggerboat

you're gonna need one

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 48,461

I didn't do it. OK, I did it but I didn't mean it. Ok, I meant it but it wasn't what I thought it meant. Ok..........................

02-21-2019 , 04:08 PM

#8655

Ungoliant

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,329

02-21-2019 , 04:09 PM

#8656

LostOstrich

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one time, throw this prick in jail

02-21-2019 , 04:09 PM

#8657

SirOsis

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chippa58

I really wish cameras were allowed in some of these courtrooms. This would be great TV.

Oh man I so want to see this. Courtroom footage of groveling Stone would be gold in Vic Berger's hands.

Spoiler:

02-21-2019 , 04:11 PM

#8658

realDonaldTrump

WITCH HUNT!

Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 2,921

( twitter | raw text )

02-21-2019 , 04:11 PM

#8659

synth_floyd

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The Roger Stone Headquarters

02-21-2019 , 04:15 PM

#8660

Namath12

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"Volunteer" won't own up to posting the pic for fear of...getting fired?

02-21-2019 , 04:16 PM

#8661

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Stone is off the witness stand. His defense attorney called his action "indefensible." ABJ responds: "I agree with you there."

02-21-2019 , 04:20 PM

#8662

SirOsis

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So did his defense attorney quit there?

02-21-2019 , 04:23 PM

#8663

uDevil

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Judge seems a pretty great job in some ways. "You're a dick. Oh, you don't agree? Here, have some contempt of court time in jail."

02-21-2019 , 04:24 PM

#8664

synth_floyd

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The Roger Stone Defense fund needs more money if all they can afford is the clown he has now.

02-21-2019 , 04:26 PM

#8665

Namath12

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Federal prosecutors broke law in Jeffrey Epstein case, judge rules

Quote:

A judge ruled Thursday that federal prosecutors — among them, U.S. Labor Secretary Alexander Acosta — broke federal law when they signed a plea agreement with a wealthy, politically connected sex trafficker and concealed it from more than 30 of his underage victims.

U.S. District Judge Kenneth A. Marra, in a 33-page opinion, said that the evidence he reviewed showed that Jeffrey Epstein had been operating an international sex operation in which he and others recruited underage girls — not only in Florida — but from overseas, in violation of federal law.

“Epstein used paid employees to find and bring minor girls to him.,’’ wrote Marra, who is based in Palm Beach County. “Epstein worked in concert with others to obtain minors not only for his own sexual gratification, but also for the sexual gratification of others.’’

Instead of prosecuting Epstein under federal sex trafficking laws, Acosta, then the U.S. attorney in Miami, helped negotiate a non-prosecution agreement that gave Epstein and his co-conspirators immunity from federal prosecution. Epstein, who lived in a Palm Beach mansion, was allowed to quietly plead guilty in state court to two prostitution charges and served just 13 months in the county jail. His accomplices, some of whom have never been identified, were never charged.

02-21-2019 , 04:26 PM

#8666

Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by synth_floyd

The Roger Stone Defense fund needs more money if all they can afford is the clown he has now.

probably a volunteer

02-21-2019 , 04:34 PM

#8667

SirOsis

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"Epstein, who lived in a Palm Beach mansion, was allowed to quietly plead guilty in state court to two prostitution charges and served just 13 months in the county jail. His accomplices, some of whom have never been identified, were never charged."

Not a lawyer, no idea what can happen now, even after reading this part:

"While the victims ultimately would like to see Epstein go to jail, the judge’s ruling stopped short of issuing a remedy or punishment. He gave the government and victims 15 days to confer with each other to come up with a resolution. It’s unclear what that resolution would be.

Edwards conceded that Epstein’s sentence isn’t likely to be overturned. He was released in 2009.

But victims’ rights advocates say that other charges can still be brought against Epstein if more victims come forward in other jurisdictions. There has been no statute of limitations for sex trafficking since 2002."

02-21-2019 , 04:36 PM

#8668

+rep_lol

banned

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 14,900

cant wait til they nail his ass in a new trial with new victims and he gets abused in prison alongside mr stone

i was looking up the crime victims rights act and it looks like there's no recourse re: charging acosta or the rest of the prosecutors with any sort of crime or overturning epstein's conviction/plea- the most they could do, *i think*, is suspend or terminate the prosecutors' employment if they were found to have violated the CVRA's provisions

02-21-2019 , 04:39 PM

#8669

LFS

emo gaylord

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21,865

I relate a lot to Stone. Random people wander in and out of my house at all hours as well. Some use my phone, some don't. I don't know their names.

02-21-2019 , 04:40 PM

#8670

Namath12

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Acosta and the other prosecutors should be disbarred at a ****ing minimum

02-21-2019 , 04:43 PM

#8671

ReasonableGuy

old hand

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,617

Quote:

Originally Posted by realDonaldTrump

( twitter | raw text )

Yeah, 220, 221, whatever it takes...

02-21-2019 , 04:43 PM

#8672

SirOsis

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Someone put a fire hose of sunshine up that judge's ass if he thinks "Hey victims and the government, why don't you two parties hash it out in the next two weeks" is going to be a smooth process

02-21-2019 , 04:51 PM

#8673

LFS

emo gaylord

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21,865

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReasonableGuy

Yeah, 220, 221, whatever it takes...

02-21-2019 , 04:59 PM

#8674

alazo1985

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 333

Roger Stone smackdown in 3...2...

“Judge ABJ is modifying the gag order. "No Mr. Stone, I'm not giving you another chance. I have serious doubt whether you learned any lesson at all." He can no longer speak publicly about the investigation or case, but he can still fundraise and proclaim his innocence.”