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02-20-2019 , 02:34 PM

#8501

kep

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,720

I want to see Mueller indict everyone on team Trump including Trump.

02-20-2019 , 02:37 PM

#8502

aflametotheground

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,851

What the hell is this, does this mean there wont be an indictment of jr?

02-20-2019 , 02:39 PM

#8503

TrollyWantACracker

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 4,184

Quote:

Originally Posted by kep

I want to see Mueller indict everyone on team Trump including Trump.

Yup. Also hope he gets the real OJ killer.

02-20-2019 , 02:45 PM

#8504

alazo1985

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 333

Quote:

Originally Posted by aflametotheground

What the hell is this, does this mean there wont be an indictment of jr?

https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/02/2...ueller-report/

Cliff notes: it’s unlikely this is the final report delivering Trump indictments but it doesn’t preclude that possibility in the future

02-20-2019 , 02:56 PM

#8505

realDonaldTrump

WITCH HUNT!

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( twitter | raw text )

02-20-2019 , 02:59 PM

#8506

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by aflametotheground

What the hell is this, does this mean there wont be an indictment of jr?

I think SDNY are the ones going after Kush and Jr.

02-20-2019 , 03:00 PM

#8507

econophile

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looks like a fence iyam

02-20-2019 , 03:02 PM

#8508

uDevil

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

Someone in Congress is going to leak it. It’s basically a lock that the public gets to see this report.

Does Congress get to see a full unredacted report? I've heard multiple times that the report is to be delivered to the AG, who then decides what happens next.

02-20-2019 , 03:19 PM

#8509

goofyballer

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Trump: we need to shut down the government for a month to demand WALL
Also Trump: WALL is already being built, actually

02-20-2019 , 03:27 PM

#8510

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 83,098

AG determines what congress sees so he can easily hide any bad stuff and never show it to anyone if he wants

02-20-2019 , 03:28 PM

#8511

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uDevil

Does Congress get to see a full unredacted report? I've heard multiple times that the report is to be delivered to the AG, who then decides what happens next.

Congress gets a summary of the report, or at least they’re supposed to. Gonna be an amazing ****show if Barr keeps it locked up.

Ultimately we’ll see clear wrongdoing and obstruction by Trump, after which Senate Republicans will most likely do Jack **** and Trump will pardon all his friends when his term is up and we’ll all wonder why we were optimistic about a process that Dems have no real power over.

02-20-2019 , 03:28 PM

#8512

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 83,098

Also, Alabama editorial calling for KKK to ride again to DC and hang the Democrats

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc...anada-47295551

"If we could get the Klan to go up there and clean out DC we'd all been better off," he said. "We'll get the hemp ropes out, loop them over a tall limb and hang all of them."

Why is he mad? Higher taxes.

He owns the paper so not getting fired.

Trump being president is absolutely empowering the racists to come out and speak like this.

02-20-2019 , 03:31 PM

#8513

aflametotheground

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,851

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicholasp27

AG determines what congress sees so he can easily hide any bad stuff and never show it to anyone if he wants

They can just subpoena it from the house judiciary committee or have mueller come testify.

02-20-2019 , 03:33 PM

#8514

David Sklansky

Administrator

Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 17,074

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinopoker

Except that's not what you proposed. You proposed 'random 72 year old white guy'.

I'm curious, why the need to specify that the random man be white?

Because l am prejudiced against nonwhites

02-20-2019 , 03:33 PM

#8515

Nicholasp27

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They can maybe ask mueller to testify but the house judiciary committee doesn’t get a copy

Only the AG gets a copy and then he decides what he shares with others

Is a huge loophole that the guy being investigated got to pick the AG who would determine the fate of the report

02-20-2019 , 03:35 PM

#8516

aflametotheground

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,851

Why dont they get a copy if they subpoena it? I dont think the AG can do anything

02-20-2019 , 03:38 PM

#8517

surftheiop

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,162

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicholasp27

Granted presumably a bunch of lawyers working for mueller all know what’s in there so if AG put out a fake version or something, someone could speak up and send them all to prison.

02-20-2019 , 03:44 PM

#8518

Trolly McTrollson

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I don’t think you can keep something like this under wraps for long. Too many people have access to it, there’s too much political will to have it leak out.

02-20-2019 , 03:48 PM

#8519

Namath12

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I dunno man, they kept the Warren Commission evidence under wraps for decades. Hell I'm pretty sure Trump's fat ass is still sitting on some of it

02-20-2019 , 03:55 PM

#8520

TheNewT50

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,009

No idea if this guy is legit at all.

02-20-2019 , 03:57 PM

#8521

TrollyWantACracker

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 4,184

Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

I dunno man, they kept the Warren Commission evidence under wraps for decades. Hell I'm pretty sure Trump's fat ass is still sitting on some of it

My JFK theory is that it was a Murder on the Orient Express situation, where everybody in the us shot him in turn. Why nobody will ever speak out.

02-20-2019 , 04:02 PM

#8522

Johnny Truant

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Thanks for the spoiler, Trolly. I haven't seen Murder on the Orient Express yet.

02-20-2019 , 04:06 PM

#8523

econophile

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rosebud is a sled

02-20-2019 , 04:12 PM

#8524

Chippa58

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,259

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheNewT50

No idea if this guy is legit at all.

I don't know this person either. BTW, how do you run into tweets from people like this that you haven't heard of?

Anyway, I had mentioned yesterday that the hiring of Sarah Isgur to "coordinate political coverage" seemed misleading. She's not going to coordinate coverage without extensive television experience. She is most likely someone who is politically connected and can help CNN hook up with more sources. I have no idea what the guy is insinuating by "doing Trump's bidding". If she's going to be working for CNN, part of her job would be to filter out attempts to politically manipulate the network through her.

02-20-2019 , 04:22 PM

#8525

econophile

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i'm old enough to remember when the starr report broke the internet (was a freshman in college at the time). i don't expect to see the same level of detail in a public mueller report, but here's hoping.

Quote:

After the four year investigation of Clinton, the Office of the Independent Counsel delivered its 445-page report to Congress on September 9, 1998.[4]

For two days, the report sat unread in the Ford House Office Building erstwhile as Democrats and Republicans in the House of Representatives debated what do with it. On September 11, the House voted 363–63 to release the report to the public.[5] When the report was uploaded to the internet, it became a sensation, with twelve percent of adult Americans — 20 million people — browsing the web at once to browse the document. "It's probably the single highest number of people who have ever used the computer to access a single document," David Webber of the Frank Lutz polling company told CNN.[6]

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