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Old 02-17-2019, 03:36 PM   #8151
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Everyone needs to come down like a ton of bricks on Smollett. This kind of thing does massive amounts of damage.
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Old 02-17-2019, 03:39 PM   #8152
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Actually I can see the SCOTUS or whoever ruling in favor of Trump on the emergency. Congress gave the president the power to declare emergencies based on an extremely vague set of guidelines. If congress is unhappy with that, they should repeal or change the law.
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:09 PM   #8153
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Everyone needs to come down like a ton of bricks on Smollett. This kind of thing does massive amounts of damage.
No it doesnt. It just gives deplorables an opportunity to spike the football, but ultimately affects nothing.
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:37 PM   #8154
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No it doesnt. It just gives deplorables an opportunity to spike the football, but ultimately affects nothing.

People use stories like that to delegitimize real ones and it becomes a problem; see: every rape ever because one or two girls made up a story about being raped.
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:37 PM   #8155
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I don't know what he thought the upside was here. Sometimes you can get inside someone's mind but this makes no sense.

If it happened as reported he's risking a high paying job on a top TV show and potentially losing his entire career for....?
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:37 PM   #8156
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People use stories like that to delegitimize real ones and it becomes a problem; see: every rape ever because one or two girls made up a story about being raped.
Yup unfortunately this.
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:44 PM   #8157
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:46 PM   #8158
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It shouldn't be made a big deal over. Idgaf what people say on 2p2. That doesn't matter. But no elected officials or pundits should be writing editorials about how bad this dude is and how it delegitimizes the legitimate. Normally I'd assume that the difference between posting on 2p2 and writing editorials for the NYT is obvious, but some people around here can't tell.
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:50 PM   #8159
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lol silence is golden
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Old 02-17-2019, 04:56 PM   #8160
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lol silence is golden
Can't tell if sarcastic, but it's not inherently a big story. It's a tabloid piece. There's no reason to make a big deal about it and the derposphere will not congratulate anyone on their honesty and reconsider whether or not the MAGAs are all sweet, lovable people.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:01 PM   #8161
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Think he meant what Pence was met with. But that would work well on hate crime deniers too. Stats work better.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:01 PM   #8162
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sorry i meant the people at the mike pence speeches giving zero response to his bs
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:03 PM   #8163
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oops. That was golden.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:06 PM   #8164
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Pence strikes me as a man who hasn't actually thought about anything his entire life. Everything he does or believes in comes from the bible, his political party or what is popular in his socio-ethnic group.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:07 PM   #8165
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Actually I can see the SCOTUS or whoever ruling in favor of Trump on the emergency. Congress gave the president the power to declare emergencies based on an extremely vague set of guidelines. If congress is unhappy with that, they should repeal or change the law.
Harry Truman tried to head off an imminent strike by the steel industry by calling a national emergency. Under that emergency, the government could nationalize the steel industry and force them back to work. Truman claimed that it was necessary for them to work as national defense would be weakened without steel being produced. This attempt at seizing private steel companies was declared unconstitutional in a 6-3 vote.

The rules for national emergency might be vague but there is precedent for stopping them if they are being exploited in order to perform unconstitutional actions.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:08 PM   #8166
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The silence was good but i liked the mocking laughter trump got better.

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Old 02-17-2019, 05:11 PM   #8167
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Harry Truman tried to head off an imminent strike by the steel industry by calling a national emergency. Under that emergency, the government could nationalize the steel industry and force them back to work. Truman claimed that it was necessary for them to work as national defense would be weakened without steel being produced. This attempt at seizing private steel companies was declared unconstitutional in a 6-3 vote.

The rules for national emergency might be vague but there is precedent for stopping them if they are being exploited in order to perform unconstitutional actions.
That's good news.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:13 PM   #8168
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I don't know what he thought the upside was here. Sometimes you can get inside someone's mind but this makes no sense.

If it happened as reported he's risking a high paying job on a top TV show and potentially losing his entire career for....?
He was getting written off the show so no. People are saying this was done to boost his profile. Hes an idiot.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:13 PM   #8169
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the UN laughingstock incident was great too, i still think fondly on it. but trump's a narcissist who convinced himself that they were laughing with him. stone silence while he's standing there waiting for an applause break is downright coldblooded. there is no greater feeling of doom for a public speaker than stone cold silence when you expect a reaction.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:14 PM   #8170
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People use stories like that to delegitimize real ones and it becomes a problem; see: every rape ever because one or two girls made up a story about being raped.
Those people didnt need a false accusation to delegitimize a real assault. Will they use it as an example? Of course. But they never cared about actual victims in the first place.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:27 PM   #8171
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You could tell in the moment he knew it was at him. And with all the stupid things trump has said in his life im sure he is used to dead silence as a response. Either ones good though. There should be much more of that.
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:33 PM   #8172
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Old 02-17-2019, 05:41 PM   #8173
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Lol SHOOK.
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Old 02-17-2019, 06:18 PM   #8174
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No Collusion! WITCH HUNT!
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Old 02-17-2019, 06:20 PM   #8175
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god I wish they'd hurry up and arrest his idiot son.
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